Scott Reams

I've created a pretty nice looking overlay for the Behringer X-Touch that correctly labels all of the buttons for Cakewalk (much like the Mackie Control overlays that have been available). I could get a bunch of them made professionally in Lexan polycarbonate, but need to get an idea of demand before I go down that path. It isn't cheap in small numbers. Would people be willing to pay $20-25 for one? I also have one made up to properly label the X-Touch buttons for when it is used to control Behringer X-Air mixers.

I've attached examples of what they would look like.

I've created a new video showing the problem and hopefully this one avoids the confusion having to do with using a new project from a template. This time, it's just a pre-existing project and I try to save to an entirely different drive without success. See the original post above.

12 hours ago, chuckebaby said:

There is no longer a global audio folder (if that's what your referring to). All audio is stored inside the the working folder of the CWP project.

This is nothing new, it was changed over a year ago.

 

I'm not referring to global audio folders at all. I know audio is stored in the project's particular audio folder. I'm just unable to manually enter any destination for the project or its audio and have it respect that.

9 hours ago, Jonathan Sasor said:

I'll take a look at the folder boxes [EDIT: I've logged a case in the system for it], but to accomplish what you're trying to do there, there's a couple things. 

First off, when saving a template file, you should do put in the stock templates folder rather than opening as a saved file.

I only used a new project template to show the behavior quickly. It happens with normal project files.

9 hours ago, Colin Nicholls said:

Yes. Please report this with steps to repro.

Maybe you'll have more luck getting attention than my report on the same issue from a year or so back.

Done. Video attached.

EDIT: So there was some confusion about me starting with a new project. I've attached a new video showing the problem with a pre-existing project file, and this time, I attempt to save to an entirely different drive letter. My choices are ignored and the project is saved to drive F instead of drive D like I selected.

Another point... the folder "Soar" already exists on drive D (I created it previously) when I try to do this. If it doesn't already exist, Cakewalk asks if I'd like to create the folder, and then it creates that folder and a duplicate under it, like this:

D:\Soar\Soar

Which is not what I wanted.

I'm finding that when I use Save As (might also be the case with Save), Cakewalk is always saving my project in a Folder with the same name as the project file (under the current folder), and saving it's audio in a subfolder under that. No matter what I type in "Project Path" or "Audio Path" at the bottom of the dialog, it is ignored. I never used to have this issue... although I don't know how long ago it started.

Here's a capture of the problem in action. Pretty easy to replicate:
 

On 1/14/2020 at 1:06 PM, bitman said:

Check to see if speedstep is set to on in the bios setup. How to get there varies from manufacture to manufacture.

This slows down the cpu when it thinks you don't need the performance. Mostly to save on battery.

Bad for DAW and happiness. 🙂

 

 

I mentioned in my original post that I suspected SpeedStep, but that there are no settings in the BIOS for it on this machine.

On 1/14/2020 at 12:18 PM, Noel Borthwick said:

Wow thats bizarre. The Windows scheduler continues to confound me when it comes to real time performance
Could this somehow be related to hyper threading - perhaps threads are being assigned to virtual cores that have lower performance. Just hypothesizing I have no idea if that is true. Just for comparison do you see the same behavior in SONAR (in case you have it)

Yes. Same performance in Sonar Platinum

LatencyMon shows excellent results and Load Balancing is off. I'll give the "Ultimate Performance" plan a try.

23 hours ago, reza sadeghi said:

Yes. it is a good solution. I contacted to Antelope again and waiting for their response.

Thanks

I have an RME Fireface UFX and I use my onboard soundcard for all non-pro-audio Windows sounds. I route the analog outputs of that card into my Fireface and monitor it through that, so everything still comes out of the same speakers.

I think this may be the issue:

Highest DPC routine execution time (µs):              2913.868796
Driver with highest DPC routine execution time:       Wdf01000.sys - Kernel Mode Driver Framework Runtime, Microsoft Corporation

On my laptop, the highest DPC routine execution time is 150µs. So Wdf01000.sys may be the culprit. I Googled it and found this thread on the NI website:

https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/help-me-latency-issues-wdf01000-sys-windows-8-1.255434/

Looks like the exact same issue and the exact same results in LatencyMon.

This is an odd one. I have a Lenovo Core i7 laptop that I use to play software instruments for live performances. It seems that the more I load the CPU up, the more stable playback becomes. As an example... if I load a single instance of Lounge Lizard 4 or VB3, audio is severely glitchy to the point of sounding like a comb-filter is on it. If I load more plugins and instruments, playback improves with each one I add. After adding one or two more instruments, I hear the occasional click/pop. Add a few more... and playback is rock solid. I have made the habit of loading up extra instruments just to make playback glitch-free during a performance.

My initial though is that this is related to Intel's Speed-step technology, and that increasing the CPU load prevents the CPU from constantly down-clocking. I've been through the BIOS settings and don't see any way to disable it. I have the power plan set to "High Performance" in Windows Power Options, and I have Processor State set to 100% for both Min and Max. Any thoughts?

Not saying your overclock is related to your Cakewalk problem... but have you fully stress-tested your overclock? Try running Prime95 for a while. It will reveal overclock issues pretty quickly.

Are you sure the view isn't docked/hidden somewhere?

Not the best solution... but you could record the "swing" part with even eighths (or quantize it to even eighths if it already exists) and then use the realtime MIDI quantize plugin to re-introduce the swing. This should fix the notation *and* have playback sound correct.

I have a project where a particular track that has had audio transient timings changed (to align a vocal double) plays back very differently depending on where on the timeline you start playback from.

Unzip the file linked below and open up the project.

http://www.mistercatstudios.com/stb.zip

Make sure the Now time is set to just before the vocal (about 42:02:000).
Press play and listen. The two vocals are aligned.
Now do the same, but start playback from 41:03:000
The second vocal track is now very late in relation to the first.

Update... This seems to only occur if there is a tempo change in the project. I tried setting the entire project to 96bpm (instead of switching from 77bpm to 96bpm at bar 9), and the problem disappeared.

Also, if you change all of the clips to have an "Absolute" instead of a "Musical" time base, they seem to behave correctly... so doing that and then switching back after editing a comp appears to be a workaround. But this definitely looks like a bug that needs fixing.

8 hours ago, David Baay said:

Looks like a side effect of the ancient bug with drag and drop option 'Slide over to Make Room'. Change that to 'Blend', in Preferences >Editing, and I think you'll be good to go. If you do actually need the 'Slide Over' behavior at some point enable Ripple Editing instead.

Thanks for the suggestion, but no... it's already set to Blend.

2 hours ago, David Baay said:

I can't reproduce a gap appearing when the crossfade is moved with or without snap enabled. What tool are you using, how far are you moving it, and how big a gap appears? Are the fades lost/changed or just move with the clip boundaries?  And are you running the current, hotfixed, version 2019.11.63?

Here's a video showing the issue.

Bump... Could somebody try this?

That makes sense... but try this instead:

Show take lanes, and then drag the edit between the first and second clips to the right a little bit. A gap appears between the 2nd and 3rd clips. No tempo changes were involved, because no clips were moved.

1 hour ago, martsave martin s said:

the audio is not there..

Thanks. I mistakenly uploaded the .cwp file. I've added a link to the .cwb file to the original post (too big to attach).

EDIT2: Please try this procedure instead:

Show take lanes, and then drag the edit between the first and second clips to the right a little bit. A gap appears between the 2nd and 3rd clips. No tempo changes were involved, because no clips were moved.

Hello all,

I've run into this one over the past few months, and when it happens (which is somewhat often), it is very difficult to work around. Sometimes, moving a pair of adjacent, cross-faded audio clips together along the timeline results in the front of the second clip being "cropped". The same can happen when moving an edit point between adjacent clips while working with take lanes. The next edit point after the one you are moving is replaced with a gap.

I'm attaching a project that shows this behavior. There is only one audio track. Simply select all three audio clips in the track and drag them to the beginning of the timeline. A gap will appear between the 2nd and 3rd clips. Alternatively, set the track to show take lanes, and then drag the crossfade between the 1st and 2nd segments to the right (like you would while editing a comp). Again, a gap appears between the 2nd and 3rd segments.

EDIT: This link should work for the bundle file that shows the issue:

http://www.mistercatstudios.com/SoarEditBug.cwb

-Scott