Johnbee58

Thanks Doug! 🙂JB

Sorry. I hit the wrong button 🙂

Re posted and re linked for Jessie Screed 🙂JB

See, you guys work your magic with exciters, compression, side chain limiting, etc. I know the basics of these things but I still can't come to grips with how to master them like some of you people have. 😀JB

@Jim RoseberryThanks for your input. I think you're right about getting away from music for a while to get a better perspective of it. I've been thinking of that myself for a little while. 😀 @Gswitz I apologize to you for over reacting to what you were doing. To tell the truth, at first I took notice to an improvement in what you did. For a few seconds I was going to ask you what you did (sounded like some kind of EQ or compression correction) but then when it got distorted it started to bother me. There was a long time when I didn't allow for my stuff to be downloaded because about 10 years ago some smart ***** decided to download something of mine and distorted and made it ugly. This person essentially murdered it, in my mind. This person MEANT it to be a mockery. I realize now that that was not your intention and I sincerely apologize for jumping to conclusions, but perhaps you can understand now why I did. The whole climate of the thread at that point was getting a bit hostile (thanks to me. I accept full responsibility) and that's why my first reaction was to be offended. Let's just call it a PTSD of sorts. 😀 @TVR PRODUCTIONS I also hope you'll accept my apology. You're not a troublemaking troll and it was just your way of offering advise. And you're correct. My voice isn't good. I don't know about yours. Maybe it's better than you think. What I plan on doing is connecting with a vocal coach and get his/her evaluation. He/she might not be able to make me ready for "The Voice" but hopefully can, as Tezza was suggesting, give me some pointers to make it a bit better and more pleasing to listen to.😀 I also regret I took down all of my music from the internet. I might work on putting them back but then again, maybe I won't. It was a stupid knee jerk reaction on my part. Some of those older tunes are going to be hard to re locate. You're all good people. I'm sorry for acting like such an *****. 😀JB

It looks like some of the drama from my other current post spilled over to this one. Wookie, I'll take what you said to heart. I'll also take it that you like my song here. For both, thanks. Leadfoot-Thank you very much. I appreciate your taking the time to listen. 😀JB

Then I guess I'll have to. I have no talent.

Listen please everybody. I know you're just trying to help, but it's not happening. I'm finished with music. It's nobody's fault, it's just that I'm not talented. TVR is right and Tezza is right. I can't sing and it's too late to learn. All of these years I've been deluding myself into thinking I had musical talent. I don't. Yesterday and this thread were just a wake up call. It's been too important to me. There are other things in my life I should focus on, so I guess this is a way of getting my attention to that fact. My music has been just another form or masturbation. I can't even get my family to listen to it. Other than my wife and and a small handful of people on this site, I'm the only one who listens to it, and that's sad and pathetic! I've spent so much time and money on it over the years and it's nothing but frustrating. It's become a monkey on my back instead of something I enjoy and this is a part of it. It's time for me to re focus on more important things in my life. Facing reality is sometimes a cruel slap in the face. Well, June 6, 2019 was my wake up call. My music is dead. It's like losing a friend or a family member but I've lost many family members over the past few years. I'll get over it. You're right. I have no musical talent. Thanks for pointing that out. Now I can move on. 😀JB Chuck-Sorry you wasted your time.

When my music is mocked publically it's not criticism anymore. Just let it go please!

I took it down. I took EVERYTHING down. You don't want to hear it. It sucks, and so does the music. I will no longer subject the public at large to the garbage I call my music. Thank you.

Too late😥 My music is dead and so is my spirit

Some other member here has seen fit to make a mockery of my efforts in a post he presented above. I have taken all of my music off the internet. I give up. I can no longer stand this hobby. It has broken my heart. Some people are just *****holes and are no help at all. First thing tomorrow I'm destroying all of my projects on all my drives. You're all right. My music sucks and I will no longer subject the world to it. And since I've loved it so much, I think this will be taking me into a major depression. Thank you

Sorry to TVR and others for overreacting. You're right. My voice sucks, but I think and hope I can improve it using some of the advise I found on this thread. 🙂

Great idea. I think my next opus will be about being a struggling amateur singer/songwriter who gets no respect (ala Rodney Dangerfield)😉😁 JB

HS. You and I are overlapping. I was just finishing my last post as your new one came up. 😁JB

Well, I admit, he did for a little while. But I'm not going to except his viewpoint that I should just give up. I've let people like him get to me before but not this time. I'll take Tezza's fine advise and I'll, as you say, move on. Tezza is spot on. In my 20s I had a good voice. In college, I was encouraged by one of the choir coaches to join because he heard me sing in my overall audition to get into the school and he told me that the choir could use a tenor like mine. That was 45 years ago and I never made it my profession. I went a different way. Now I'm almost 64 and have asthma, and I can hear all that Tezza is saying. I have no pitch control anymore (it was better even 10 years ago) and I've forgotten how to sing from my diaphragm, like I was taught. Maybe a coach can help me with these. I'm not expecting to make it to "America's Got talent". I know I'll NEVER be of that caliber anymore. I just want to improve the best I can. I'll never be perfect. I just want to be better, and I think I can improve. Encouragement is nice. So is CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. But to just be told more or less, "Give up. Your voice is no good"! I don't accept that. It can get better. Not perfect, but better. My skin is getting thicker. Thanks, HS 🙂JB

TVR wasn't a critique. That was a PUT DOWN! This is saying "You have no talent! Just give up!" But I'm not letting this idiot get to me. He could've put it better, like Tezza. That was a critique. To say "Face it. You don't have a good voice" is just an ignorant put down by someone who likes to troll and make trouble!

@TVR PRODUCTIONSNo. I take this all back. For once I'm going to stand up to trolls like you and tell you to shove it where the sun don't shine! There have been people on this thread who have been very encouraging and gave me the best advise they could. None of them put it so bluntly as you did and I believe you're just a troublemaker and I refuse to let you get me down! I'm just doing this for fun. You didn't have to put this the ignorant way you did. As musicians and artists we should all encourage each other as best we can, whether we are pros or just amateurs. I don't know what YOUR problem is regarding YOUR voice. Maybe YOU should give up. You should definitely give up giving people advise

I was looking around my area for a vocal coach today as per Tezza's fine advise. I was looking into buying a new mic stand to allow for me to sing UP to the mic, but now I think I'll take a sledge hammer to all my gear because this troll come on and tells me not to bother. I don't have that good of a voice. Guess it would be futile to even TRY. Well, TVR, you made my decision for me. I'm DONE with music. I don't do this for money. I put my tunes up on the net for free. I know I don't have what it takes to make it pro, but I just want to have fun and do the best I can with it. You have destroyed in one post all of what I've been working for the past 4 years on. Thank you very much!

Why don't YOU face it and speak for yourself! Some encouragement I get from this forum. I ask for advise on recording and I get "Your voice is no good. That's telling me that I might as well give up. I don't do this for money. I write for fun and put my music up for free. You're saying I might as well give up even doing that. Do you say this just to be a trouble making troll? 🤬

This is how my voice sounded back in 2006. Those were the days https://www.soundclick.com/html5/v4/player.cfm?songID=12733242 I was collaborating with an excellent french guitarist/composer. He would send me a guitar part he came up with and I would finish it with lyrics and melody. This is probably the best my voice ever sounded. 🙂JB

Thanks, Paul! 🙂John B

Sounds good so far. I can tell not much has been done in the mix but even in mono it's very pleasing. 🙂John B

Thanks for the tips, Tezza. I know what you're saying about the quality of my voice. I'm in my 60s now but I took vocal lessons in 20s. My voice was much better even 10 years ago. In the passing years I've developed asthma and have lost control of being able to hold pitches. I'm not serious anymore with this and it's just a hobby. I would like to try what you said about singing UP to the mic. I will have to buy a new mic stand for that because the current one I have does not have a counter weight (and I don't know if it would accept one) and placing the mic above me would result in the whole thing being front heavy. So maybe I'll look into a new stand with a new boom and counter weight. They're not that expensive. I was also considering vocal lessons, but I don't want to make it a major investment. You say a few will improve things. 😀JB

I like the melody and the chord changes in this a lot. I don't think the beat does it justice though. I'd opt for a more quieter one myself, but hey, It's your tune. 🙂JB