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From what I can see, but don't hold me to it, is nothing. I don't think there is anything 'exclusive' to AT5 MAX. It's just everything, all products together. And one of those products is AT5

@scook do you know what this means when it says custom configuration?

Thanks for all the feedback Peter. Hang in there!!

I am not sure what that means either. I don't have any custom menus or anything like that. So when I do it I don't see any difference. If you do have custom menus then maybe save them first. I know it doesn't mess with any saved presets I have.

@c c Have you tried to do a Reset then Scan your VST's again in Preferences/File/VST Settings/Scan Options/Reset after you installed v12 Waves Plugins?

Poor Peter!! Glad I ain't gotta deal with that! That's what I figured. All of us that have almost everything could get AT5 SE and use the new GUI and get a small taste for the other new stuff. Cheapest way there. But I think the best deal for someone like me is to get AT5. With that purchase I get almost everything in AT5 MAX. I looked through it and there ain't much I won't have. The Joe Stach stuff. But I ain't got that now. Do I expect all my products I already own to be upgraded to a new and improved version? Of course not. That's not what I paid for. But IK did allow ST 2XL instruments and sounds to be brought into ST3. Also allowed ST 3 instruments and sounds to be brought into ST4. So who knows... we might get lucky! Just to be clear, I ain't paying no $210 for AT5 MAX. That is a little high 🤑. But getting what I am for $100, I think I can live with that. Is it a great deal? Nope. But it's alright. As I have learned, I can sit back and wait to get all the stuff at an unbelievable price later. But I will have that new UI when it comes out! I am looking forward to that. 😁

Go ahead... rub it in!! LOL

@telecode 101Yes thanks for the link. To me this confirms (along with what Matt found) that all my stuff I have I will be able to use in AT5. After looking around at everything that was in the list telecode 101 posted I started thinking. Do I really want AT5 SE? For a little more I could buy AT5 and get most of the new stuff, along with what I already got, and that would almost give me AT5 MAX. Don't hold me to this, but I did look and saw that with me having AT4 MAX, the main things in AT5 MAX I won't have is most of the new speakers, All of Joe Stach stuff, a few new amps, and some pedals. I can do without that till the Total Studio comes on sale!! And to give IK support some props, I did buy, paid for, AT5 SE. After looking at the list telecode posted I realized I wanted AT5. So I sent in a support request to Sales, within two hours they had refunded me my money. It was already back in my PayPal account!! Then I was able to get AT5! $104 using 45 Jampoints. I am a happy camper! So for AT4 MAX owners, it looks to me like you can get AT5 SE and get the new UI and limited new speaker, stomps, amps, cabs. Or step up and get AT5 and get more new stuff. Even looks like that Axe deal is a rather good deal if you're in the market for an interface. The Axe itself is $349. With AT5 MAX, it's just $50 more at $399. If you got enough Jampoints, I was able to get it down to $284. Not bad for the Axe and AT5 MAX.

Same here Zinc. Oh yes I know that. But I do want that new thing!! : ) And I will have the MAX version eventually!!

Yes, this is the same thing I am wondering. I pulled the trigger anyway. Yep I upgraded from AT4 Max to AT5SE!!! : ) I figure with all the upgrades that I have done with IK in the past, I really don't remember anything from an older version that I owned not being able to be used in the newer version. So I figured that would hold true with AT5. With Jam Points, it was $70.

Isn't it the 29 by now in Italy?!!

Yeah, same here.

Finally!! The wait is over! Still gonna wait till the $29 sale!!

I do like the way this plugin looks. But I am wondering what the SHMOO setting is? First I heard of it!!

Yeah, me neither. But I do love my Waves plugins.

Yep.

When I got Total Studio 2 (or was it 3?) I got ST3 MAX with it. And a lot of stuff came with that. Not long after ST4 came out and I just never have kept up with what was released after. So when I tried to dig in and see what I should have, don't have, it got confusing for me and even looking at that long ***** ST Instrument sheet, didn't help me at all!! : ) But now I am stocked up and ready to go. Just missing some Syntronik sounds. (Why is there no Syntronik MAX?)

I still love the clean AT default amp. That's what got me to buy AT in the first place. The Tube Comp is really a secret weapon of AT. So I wouldn't want them to do anything to the older stuff. Just come up with new stuff?

This is where I get confused. Since I have ST3 and all of those expansions for them, I assumed (wrongly!) that the new ST4 expansions would be included (eventually?) with ST Max. But it's hard to keep up with when ST4 was released and the expansions packs that go with it, but are not included in ST4 MAX.

I would agree with this. As this is my assumption too. @abacab Thanks for that info. I did see the SE with "25gb of All New ST4 Samples!" lead me to believe that they were "Totally New" as in not part of the original ST sounds. So as I understand it, I am correct in that assessment. I just didn't realize that ST4 MAX has it all!! I mean it is the MAX! (except the new sounds that they came out with after ST4 Max came out. No... it's not confusing. No, not at all)

Me too!! 🤣 I remember those times!! Always "A new ST is coming.... soon!!" Now that's a great question. What could they possibly do that would improve the user experience? 1. Scalable UI 2. Ability to use FX outside of AT

Nope.

So I have ST 4 SE. Is the instruments the same as ST 4 MAX? Or should I d/l them too?

Thanks for the updates.

Thanks for the updates!!