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On 9/25/2019 at 11:08 AM, Noel Borthwick said:

I don't see this problem. As long as Select track envelopes with clips is selected it will move the data irrespective of whether lanes are open or not.

Can you reproduce this in a new project? If not please send a link to the CWP file so we can try and reproduce it.

 

The only change we made in 07 was this:

 

Thanks Noel, I'll attach a CWP with a clip all set up etc. Also, here's a short video of me showing the problem: (PS. I'm still on Win 8.1, I feel like some of the issues I'm having might relate to that? Not Sure.

 move track automation with clip test.zip

Some plugins I have don't have learn controls as part of their interface. Ivory Piano for instance.

Whenever I run into this, I notice the act/learn button at the top of the plugin. Whenever I engage it, then click on or adjust a knob followed by moving a knob on my midi controller, cakewalk never gets the midi message so I'm unable to learn the control.

The plugin is set to receive midi, I can play and hear the piano sound but it doesn't get the learn-control type of midi message.

Also, if I engage automation "write-mode" in Cakewalk and physically move the knob, it doesn't record the automation like that either.

Is there something I'm missing with Act/Learn that has to do with configuration of the program? I'm stumped.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Jono

1 hour ago, Kev said:

In the Edit menu under Select, there is a check-box option to Select Track Envelopes with Clips.

Thanks, I have that selected but it only works if the lanes are expanded, which I'm now figuring out.

J

I just figured out why... the envelope lane has to be expanded or the track automation doesn't get selected.

Come on Cakewalk, not a good revision. I find so many of the new changes just make tasks take longer. 

J

@Noel Borthwick

Can you help here Noel? Should be a simple thing... see above

Thanks

Jono

Clip envelopes move with the clips, that's fine. It's track envelopes, even if I select "select track envelopes with clips" they don't move if I drag the clip.

Here's a video of this in BL Cakewalk and then in Sonar X1 (where it works)

There must be a way to do this in one step. I'm sure many people want to "move" a clip and they would want their automation nodes to move with it.

I used to be able to grab a clip in sonar, drag it somewhere and the automation would move as well (unless I chose not to select automation with clips)

New cakewalk doesn't move the track automation any more! What's going on???

I don't want to use some cut special thing, way too complicated. Just want to select clip or clips with their automation and drag them somewhere all together.

What am I doing wrong?? They wouldn't remove that ability would they?

Thanks

Jono

On 9/8/2019 at 5:17 PM, BRainbow said:

You're not taking about "Auto-Track Zoom" are you, "shift-z" under the track view "View" menu?  Is that not working for you?

Thanks, no, not talking about "Auto-track zoom" I know about that one but I don't choose to use it much. Sometimes I just want to zoom whatever zoom-state the tracks are in but stay focused on the track I have selected, that's all.

Cheers

On 9/7/2019 at 1:00 PM, Chuck E Baby said:

A few things,

1- you didn't mention how you are trying to accomplish zooming. Are you using the zoom buttons, the zoom tool, Keystrokes, the timeline zoom ?

2- you have about a slim chance of someone from cakewalk fixing this (if they can repro it) by simply posting it here in the General section of the Cakewalk forums.

3- Report it to Cakewalk directly. More info can be found here...

For what its worth, I cant repro this problem. but then again, I have no clue as to what actions you are performing.

Leave cakewalk detailed info in repro steps. example...

1- select track

2- use keystrokes CNTR+UP/DOWN to zoom in on tracks

3- exc, exc, exc

Thanks, I will post there.

I am zooming either using the ctrl+UP/DOWN or with the little zoom tool in the bottom right of the screen. If I use either, the whole session goes to the top or bottom of the file instead of keeping the selected track in the center of the screen as it used to. I'm having other issues with CW and video, wondering if it's because I'm on windows 8.1... switching to 10 soon. We'll see.

Thanks

Always when zooming in previous versions of Sonar etc. it would zoom in to the focused track that was selected, which made wonderful sense.

NOW however, no matter what track you have selected, when you do any zooming, the program just wildly goes to the bottom or top of the session, ignoring the track you have selected. Please fix that!! So annoying and time consuming to have to re-scroll through a huge session file each time you want to zoom in or out.

Just have it zoom in to the selected track. I know there are different ways of zooming and expanding tracks but the basic zoom in/zoom out function should zoom with the selected track in focus. Why change such a basic sensible function? Please fix this bug, it's been present in all bandlab versions of Cakewalk. Test it in Sonar Platinum, you'll see that it zooms to the selected track.

Thanks

Jono

Seems to work now, I think I was dragging left-right rather than up-down.

I'd love to see a current YouTube video of someone explaining EVERYTHING about the lanes and comping etc. with all the updated features...

Thanks!

Jono

2 hours ago, David Baay said:

You can't get auto-crossfades by just creating clip overlaps as happens in the parent track, but you can manually cross-fade slip-edited clips that abut eachother in lanes by holding Ctrl with the Smart tool, hovering over the lower half of the split til you see the cross-fade tool, and then clicking and dragging (up, I think) to created the crossfade.

Trying what you're suggesting but holding control doesn't seem to do anything on a clip lane. Was hoping it would...not sure what I'm doing wrong..

2 hours ago, Base 57 said:

Have you tried the new filter for the Smart Tool?  Unselect "Comp" in the Smart Tool drop-down. Then you can edit take lanes much the same way as you could back when they were called "Layers".

The short answer to your question is; yes.  However when lanes are open track edits must be made on one (or more) of the lanes, not the track itself.

Thanks, just tried unchecking "comp" from the smart tool but it seems to act no differently. I was hoping so bad that what you said would work but it doesn't seem to. Still doing the same annoying stuff.. Sorry, I preferred the "lanes" to this comp thing that I don't use. Frustrating. Not sure why deselecting "comp" doesn't work. My version is updated to the latest... hmmm...

Can anyone answer this?

Thanks

Jono

Anyone?

Hi there, just wondering, is there a way to do cross fading when you have a track's lanes open? It seems like you can't which is quite frustrating.

Is there a way?

Thanks

Jono

On 8/17/2019 at 7:44 PM, Gswitz said:

I wonder if our difference in process might explain some of the diffs in result.

I usually fast bounce to a new track then export that clip with no processing. This makes the export go super fast and I can export to different bit-depths and sample rates where that will be the only difference.

I don't know if this helps but it might help you isolate the difference to only the exports.

 

That's a good way to do it! I thought it might make sense to do all the master processing while the audio was at it's highest sample rate. I guess I can't really do that unless I leave the final limiter/maximizer to be the final process after SR conversion.

18 hours ago, Gswitz said:

You do a null test by re-importing the file you just exported into a new track exactly lined up with the clip you exported.

Do this by using ctrl+g to move to the beginning of the selected clip, set focus on the new track then import the file you exported.

Now you have two copied of the same clip aligned. If you flip the polarity (phase) on the track you just imported and play the two together you should get silence. If you bounce the two clips together and normalize the new clip you should get flat silence.

Right, okay, thanks! A couple of things may not work here though. Lining up the file might be difficult as the original is going through a bunch of plugins and may have a bit of latency, even with plugin delay comp happening. Also, to bring the 44.1 k file back into the 48 k session,  it wants to be re-sampled to the session rate of 48k so I'm not sure the experiment will tell me much. I can tell visually that the exported/re-sampled file is different.

What I found is that you need to re-sample the audio first and work in a session that has the same sample rate before adding your mastering processes. Perhaps it has something to do with the mastering plugin processing getting re-sampled and truncated or something, causing the file to peak a little beyond the ceiling that was set in the limiter.

Anyhow, thanks

J

Confirmed... if you re-sample the track and do the mastering/limiting work in a new file with the new sample rate, the same exact mastering process does not peak.

So, re-sampling while exporting a track with processing will not sit inside the threshold. Too bad, it's a time saver!

If anyone knows any more about it, please let me know!

I will try the same process using a track without any plugins and see if the re-sample causes any change to the peaks.

Cheers

Jono

10 minutes ago, Gswitz said:

Interesting. I've never seen that.

Any chance other audio is getting in? 

If you import and do a null test does it match? It should.

Thanks! Not sure what you mean about the null test... no other audio going in, it's the same process for the 48 kHz export except for the re-sample.

After exporting, I bring the file into sound forge (it has a good wave form preview) and the re-sampled track has peaks over the set limiter setting of -0.2. The one that isn't re-sampled sits perfectly into the -0.2 range.

I think when it does all the mastering processing AND gets re sampled at the same time, it goes over. I'm going to try to re-sample the track before the mastering processing and I'm guessing it will export properly. It's odd to me though.

I'll report back.

Thanks

Jono

Anyone know about this?

Thanks!

Do I need to re sample the file first and then bring it into a new cakewalk session at 44.1 kHz and then redo the mastering process again?

J

Hi there,

I'm exporting a final master from Cakewalk. I have the final output of the limiter peaking at - 0.2, when I export at the native sample rate of 48 kHz, the peak is the same.

However; when I export the file and choose to change the sample rate to 44.1, the exported file goes over that maximum peak and hits zero.

Why is that happening and is there a better way to re sample the file, retaining the accurate peak maximum?

Thanks

Jono

Anyone know a good way to do this?

tx

Hi folks,

My UAD plugins all show up under Universal Audio, however, each one of them are titled starting with "UAD"

How can I rename a folder or something so that they will all just be titled with their plugin name, like "EMT 140" instead of "UAD EMT 140"? I don't wanna do it wrong and mess things up.

I like that the whole list is there but I'd like to just type the first letter of a plugin and get down to that general area of the list rather than scrolling though every plug.

Thanks

Jono