SS

3 minutes ago, scook said:

There is no need for ASIO4All if the interface has a working ASIO driver supplied by the manufacturer.

As noted above, ASIO4All can conflict with other ASIO drivers so it is best to delete it before installing other ASIO drivers.

All that needs to be done is download and install the Focusrite ASIO driver then configure CbB to use it.

WASAPI may still be useful when the Focusrite interface is not plugged in. It works with the internal sound chip and is part of the OS.

ok I get it now...you guys are so helpful!!!! I appreciate all you guys that give great effective feedback to newbies in this industry. Once my piano arrives ill give it a shot. Thank you Scook!!!🥰

1 hour ago, User 905133 said:

Just so people offering ideas in this thread know, the interface + drivers matter is also being discussed in another thread started by SS.  As for the "Opening Cakewalk-Cursor Blue Swirl" issue, I have no idea if that has been SOLVED yet.  

the other thread is about interface in general 

this thread is about the blue swirl issue...upon my observation, some of these issues are multifaceted and can stem from  hardware or configuration so please just let the guys give their knowledge and feedback. There are times, topics can crossover..so not sure what your intention is but i find your intention as disruptive and unneccessary drama behavior. The guys here are not stupid, they don't need to be micromanaged by you. 

1 hour ago, 57Gregy said:

The  Focusrite will have its own, true ASIO driver, so you won't need ASIO4All or any version of WASAPI. In fact, it's probably a good idea to remove ASIO4All from the computer as it can cause conflicts with a true ASIO driver.
You can download Focusrite's driver for your device and operating system from their web site.

wait sorry let me start over

i removed asio4all

ok then i will download the drivers for the focusrite interface....

then at any point, do I involve wasapi?

sorry i sound clueless...im learning as i go😟

1 hour ago, 57Gregy said:

The  Focusrite will have its own, true ASIO driver, so you won't need ASIO4All or any version of WASAPI. In fact, it's probably a good idea to remove ASIO4All from the computer as it can cause conflicts with a true ASIO driver.
You can download Focusrite's driver for your device and operating system from their web site.

Gregy I removed asio4all

im confused...wasapi has to be downloaded? i thought it was already an aspect within windows 10..maybe i misunderstood what i read on a thread?

1 minute ago, scook said:

Cakewalk by BandLab

thank you scook!😀

15 hours ago, bdickens said:

I don't miss the Portastudio one single bit.

The Fidelity is terrible. There's only four tracks. Actually only three because one of them you have to give up to record timecode onto in order to sync up your MIDI gear. And that has to be recorded at the right level because if it's too loud it cross talks onto the next track. If it's too quiet then your midi gear keeps losing it's synchronization.

 

Of course there's also cleaning a demagnetizing all the time and the expense of buying media which racks up real quick.

Speaking of expense, the initial cost of the thing was as much as Cakewalk was back when it was SONAR and they were still selling it. Plus it didn't have any effects, or any instruments. If you wanted effects you had to buy outboard rack gear which was expensive.You also had to buy a stereo cassette deck to mix down onto which is more money.

No, I don't miss the Portastudio one bit.

It's well worth it to invest a little time and effort into learning how to use the software. (Which you had to do with the Portastudio anyways.)

ok sorry to bring up the past lol 

thank u for sharing your thoughts with me😎

19 hours ago, Wookiee said:

To get optimum performance from CbB you ideally need an audio interface designed to be used by a professional DAW which CbB is.

Wookie I keep seeing the acronym CbB in threads...what on earth does that mean?

1 hour ago, Old Joad said:

sometimes youtub has to much info🤧

omg i know! hearing them and reading comments drove me nuts. I think i disliked videos because i got annoyed haha!

13 minutes ago, abacab said:

Focusrite Scarlett has a very good factory ASIO driver. I rely on it daily! 👍

Since you already have the Scarlett Solo, just download the latest drivers from the Focusrite site, and you are good to go!

 

thank you abacab!😀 I could not move forward without u guys. I have tried researching all this stuff even on youtube and the confusion just is frustrating. Men are better at self learning engineering stuff than us ladies imo..or maybe it's just me lol

11 minutes ago, Old Joad said:

yeah, with windows 10 just download the drivers and install. that's all you have to do😎

thank you old joad! i feel more encouraged...i wanted to slam everything and quit. It's great meeting knowledgeable musicians here😀

10 minutes ago, Old Joad said:

I use Focusrite Scarlett Solo 2nd generation 2-in/2-out USB audio interface. 

Scarlett Solo

works great..

Hih Old Joad! I don't think mine is 2nd generation..ill have to look! So relieved to hear🤩

1 minute ago, John Vere said:

https://support.focusrite.com/hc/en-gb

I find it odd that you would not first go to the Focusrite web site where they have a whole page of tutorials as well as top notch support . 

 

I didn't know  they had an online community...i'm learning everything all at once...it's literally like learning a foreign language with EVERYTHING. I don't even know if I should go with focusrite..it just landed in my hands because my sister bought it for youtube. But i'll have to look there as well if anyone can provide valuable experience and knowledge. But I was leaning towards a mass of people that have experience with daw and recording audio so when i downloaded bandlab and cakewalk, i discovered the resources here so it makes sense as well

18 minutes ago, scook said:

ASIO4All is not an ASIO driver. It is a wrapper for WDM drivers intended for use with programs that require ASIO.

CbB does not require ASIO, it can use WASAPI and WDM drivers directly.

When most users recommend using ASIO, they are not talking about ASIO4All. They are referring to a manufacturer supplied ASIO driver supplied with the audio interface, 

As a rule a manufacturer supplied ASIO driver performs better than Windows drivers (WASAPI and WDM).

The exception being Realtek. Their ASIO driver is not very good. When using the internal sound chip on Win10, WASAPI is the best choice. 

When using an audio interface designed for DAW use, the best option is the manufacturers ASIO driver. If the manufacture does not supply an ASIO driver or if they use ASIO4All, avoid the interface.

Focusrite supplies ASIO drivers for their interfaces.

Hi Scook!😀

I think I understand the clarification you're providing. I think the interchanging on terminology i'm reading online is confusing me so much. Ok so does this make sense if I do this:

ill look for an audio interface that is built with ausio drivers...then i'll install it.  Then in cakewalk, I'll configure my audio in and output settings to Wasapi exclusive.....

11 minutes ago, martsave martin s said:

you can try ASIO driver-mode in preference from there adjust the buffer for your soundcard, 128 can be good for recording...& playback

i can understand you perfect martin!

so you're recommending...not to use wasapi?  i did install asio4all drivers but another guy advised me to go with wasapi

is that what you mean?

HELP! I'm a novice trying to learn all this recording engineering language at the same time researching the equipment etc. Anyone know which audio interface is compatible with cakewalk? I don't need anything fancy...just great working but not luxury. Here's everything I'm using:

laptop: Dell 15 3000

Digital piano 88 key: Roland GO

I just configured my cakewalk audio settings to wasapi exclusive

***also I have a scarlett solo interface i bought few months ago for youtube..but would that work with my recording situtaion? i couldn't find much info online about the scarlett solo for cakewalk 

On 5/4/2021 at 8:29 AM, John Vere said:

A few months ago I did some testing while I was making a tutorial on setting up for on Board audio. I used 4 different computers and a bunch of  ASIO interfaces as well as the on board audio. 

I have always advised against on board audio and spouted the same old " Get an Audio interface or you will die " mantra over and over. 

But I was actually converted after running the tests using loopback testing and trying different buffers etc. 

Bottom line is you absolutely need an audio interface if you are actually a real musician and plan on recording audio. Your tracks will not be in sync otherwise unless you take the time to adjust the manual offset. As well as there's no professional audio connectivity to a computer. 

But if you are just a DJ, Producer etc.  and you don't need to record audio there's nothing wrong with a properly set up on board audio system. 

I work for hours on full projects that have a lot of plug ins and tracks using my on board audio in WASAPI shared mode. My Scarlett interface is sitting right there but there's no real reason to turn it on. It doesn't change anything about the work I'm doing. If I actually wanted to record anything I will turn it on then. I can record midi keyboards as well with WASAPI, no latency at all. Just do the usual by pass all effects. 

And please leave asio4all back in the W7 world. It serves absolutely no purpose now we have Windows 10 and  WASAPI modes for on board audio. It was so sketchy I couldn't even run tests with it. And then it causes issues with my ASIO drivers.  The Real Tech ASIO driver as noted above,  is real junk and it failed all loopback testing( when I could get it to work) 

So you only need to know these 2 things

For recording = A proper audio interface with ASIO drivers. 

For editing and midi = On Board audio using either of the WASAPI modes. 

within cakewalk, I change the audio in and out to wasapi exclusive or shared....but do I  need to first change my general settings within windows? I can't find a youtube tutorial about this....im confused.  To back up a bit, do i need to first hook up my interface before changing all these settings or can I configure first then hook up?

23 minutes ago, Wookiee said:

I don't recommend ASIO4all try WASAPI. 

also does it make sense for me to be configuring this without hooking up the interface yet? 

i looked online..they say wasapi is a feature within windows 10...so i looked on youtube to see how i can configure my audio to wasapi...i found one tutorial but his settings were nothing like mine at all so nothing made sense.  This is a crazy process just to record....i miss old cassette style recording 

where do i go to download wasapi?

3 hours ago, Wookiee said:

What audio device? 

Hi Wookiee🙂

I'm a novice learning daws, recordin, etc....I dug up info online for this issue and downloaded asio4all. I then opened cakewalk and the swirl is gone. I then was able to ensure asio were checked off for my audio settings. Looked like it automatically did it in cakewalk so i didn't have to do anything manually. That was nice.

But I don't even have an interface connected yet...i just have my new laptop and downloaded cakewalk when I got those issues yesterday. But now i found out the focusrite interface I already own ( I was going to use for recording) is not compatible with the asio4all drivers. Does it sound like I'm doing good so far? 

If you have any recommendations for interface,  PLEASE let me know.  I'll only be recording with a digital 88 key piano as my only audio instrument. Hoping to find something under $50

I left cakewalk opened last night saturday...I just woke up and it's sunday...it's still swirling the blue circle cursor. Closed the program by force close thru task management ctrl alt delete.  Opened cakewalk again..same thing. Super annoyed

I literally have a new laptop I bought yesterday

Dell 15 3000 

i5/8GB

The ONLY program other than cakewalk/bandlab assistant is Reaper that I downloaded just fine with no issues. I can open cakewalk but it never lets up the blue swirling cursor...initially I got that message at the top (not responding)...but that went away...i can click on stuff but it takes a long time lagging and the blue swirling NEVER goes away.   Anyone having this issue? Need help SOS!