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I think Amplesound has more potential if you can get to grips with riffer but you have to be able to think like a guitarist to get the best from it. Both sound good, preferences depend on the individual guitars.

Not really, Space Delay itself is small. To preserve space, just (manually) delete all the other T-Racks plugins after installation. It's a bit annoying, but easy to quickly do after you update the package every now and then.

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OMG! Crazy...

My posts were purely based on my experience, and people are free to dismiss them as they see fit. Sonar regularly crashes if I switch off VS3 migration. I am currently unable to use CbB after this issue arose. You can't trial Sonar Core plug-ins yet, so it seems needless to have them as an opt out option on the trial version of Sonar until they can be used safely, as they can, and in my case, do, affect older versions- Also stated in the first post.

Not only this one is instaled. Ik is instaling all plugins but activate this one which you have license.

@Noel Borthwick I am pretty certain my CPU's water cooler died. The fans flowing through its radiator is only blowing cold air, which tells me no heat transfer is occurring to the water. I ordered a new one from Amazon and they send me a repackaged used one. The screws and parts were strewn loosely in the box. So I have to wait another day or two to test my theory. So it is probably a combination of a dead CPU cooler and the Sonar optimizations which is causing such a quick ramp to the issues I am having, rather than the gradual one I am used to. Thanks again for your help.

Well, you can tinker those sounds to your heart’s content if you are so inclined. Don’t just use Falcon as a preset player. Let the bird fly.

I tried exporting/importing the ones in the list above but nothing happened.

Requires 9GB hard disk space - I see why they call it "Space Delay" Syphus

Well TBH, my VST scan covers those 10 seconds..... So?

In my experience, VSTs that get stuck simply don't respond to note off messages correctly, and/or Sonar isn't sending the right version of note-off message to it (different than the one it expects). If there is an option in your version of Sonar to send *all* the possible versions of note-off messages to all MIDI ports, virtual, hardware, and VST/DX/VI, I'd try that first. Might be in Panic Button options. I don't have that option in my ancient version, so to fix it in the synth I use all the time that does this I have to toggle the arp state (doesn't matter if it's used or not, but doing this stops any stuck notes in Z3TA+2).

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My guess is that they have their own methods of keeping track of the devices rather than relying solely on the information Windows supplies.

Yes and yes.

It won't if you follow the instructions in the first post in this topic. The point of this topic is to warn about this and inform users how to avoid it. It isn't irreversible. Don't overwrite your old SONAR or CbB projects after opening them in $onar or SoFT. When trialing new software, it's never a good idea to overwrite the projects you've created in the older version. Always keep a backup copy.

Freeze as much as you can. You should also click the box in VST scanning that says in Sandbox. Look at your per plugin CPU numbers. You can usually find the CPU bandits! Hover over the plugin name.

Tried also having Chrome open . inconclusive but might be OK, couple of mins to load, but not quite A/B test. It's getting late here. Re : Killing off all Edge processes - Under Search you'll see "Webview2", which if you kill it, restarts itself continuously. Not considering uninstall ATM. So, thanks to all I have some tools and tricks to get loading done in a minute or too. Unplug Ethernet cable may give the fastest. I have not seen the 30mins loading again - the acid test will be if that recurs, will these tricks work - the answer is hopefully yes!

By ACT I mean the approach, not "ACT MIDI Controller" plug-in. That plug-in is in fact limiting and its limitation has triggered me to write my own ACT plug-in. I mean AZ Controller (https://www.azslow.com/). Standard Mackie (and all other) is also ACT plug-in. Creating own virtual surface to make a project one single "instrument" under its control, so "Remote control" the same way as "MIDI Learn" in soft-synths, is a valid approach. But that is different from generic DAW control, I mean using one device with arbitrary projects. At the beginning I was creating project specific presets, major problem was remembering what controls do in particular project... With one preset which always works the same way there is no such problem (I guess that is the reason for MCU and alike popularity). What also helps are actual labels for controls (another MCU/C4 and alike advantage). MIDI does not allow the last, you need OSC (f.e. https://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,295.0.html) or at least a window with such labels (what "ACT MIDI" GUI does... well, not perfectly...).

thanks have downloaded it, will try tomorrow, as it's getting late here.

@Jason Morin Can I get upgrade from Poetic Guitar II? I recall, I already asked you about it and you said that it was possible.

killed Edge processes and unplugged network cable - nice and quick - "Under A Minute" - didn't use a stopwatch to compare with just killing off Edge. Comparable times , not much in it, anecdotally. If I have to do that to get over these loading humps and get these big projects over the line, then so be it. Thanks

Maybe run your disks through CrystalDisk info as well. The Windows Event Viewer might yield something as well.

thanks, I can check that too, since using Arturia Analog Lab V

We're going to make the core plugins available to demo soon. Note that if you turn off migration it won't replace the older plugins on your project. It also warns you when it replaced the plugins. In the next release we're also migrating any old plug-in presets you may have saved to make the process painless. But it's fairly easy to save a copy of your project with the new plugins.