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is the 64 bit audio engine enabled in both DAWS? edit: just noticed problem was solved.

From AI Dithering should be applied when reducing the bit depth of an audio file, such as when bouncing from a 32-bit or 24-bit session to a 16-bit or 8-bit file. This is typically done during the final mastering process before export. Dithering helps to minimize quantization distortion that can occur when reducing the bit depth of an audio signal. Elaboration: When not to dither: Dithering is generally not needed when working with 32-bit floating-point audio, as the dynamic range is wide enough to make quantization errors negligible. Where to dither: Dithering should be applied as the final step in the mastering process, just before the final export. You typically only need to dither once in a DAW application, on the main stereo output, says Production Advice. When to dither: Dither is necessary when reducing the bit depth of an audio file, for example, when exporting from a 32-bit session to a 16-bit file for CD or streaming services. Why dither? Dithering introduces a small amount of noise to help mask quantization error, which is the distortion that can occur when the bit depth of a signal is reduced.

I cannot find a single source saying you should use dither when bouncing a file All reference material points to it only being used when reducing bit depth Do you know what dither is?

It's in the Q&A subforum, 2nd from top. If you want it in the main CbB forum you can PM a staffer and ask if they'll move it but that would be at their discretion.

I'm happy with this release, really like the look of the theme, but you know, it may not have changed all that much because I liked it before too. Sonar is certainly the best-looking DAW on the market imho. I needed to reinstall anyway because I think my C runtime dll's got overwritten by another install and I was having a lot of crashes.

I am not finding what you are writing, in the article. Maybe I missed it. Here it states that one should dither when changing bit depth and almost no other time. https://www.izotope.com/en/learn/what-is-dithering-in-audio.html#:~:text=Dithering should always be off,bit to 16-bit). I do not see how recording is changing the bit depth. Maybe I am missing something here.

Final Update: The issue was related to the automation of the low-pass filter frequency on "Ozone 11 Equalizer" on an individual track. For some reason, changing the low-pass frequency on the equalizer caused the "Ozone 11 Mastering" plugin (a separate FX plugin on the Master bus) to lock up and cause Sonar to stop outputting audio. They must use a shared library that enters a corrupted state. Removing the automation on the individual track prevents the mastering plugin from corrupting Sonar. I wanted a sweeping low-pass filter and decided to automate the Sonar Pro-Channel EQ., This works fine.

I know that is all good information.... and appreciated. I just had hoped someone could confirm that this particular project must be corrupted because, the exported mix does not match the relative volume of the two tracks being heard right before the export. i.e. I am not talking about the overall level, I am talking how one of tracks exports at a different level thereby changing the mix (the balance between tracks, not the overall level)

You do realize that digital quatization happens during recording too right? Your interface is computing a file from analog to digital as the file gets written to digital in the DAW. Dithering is needed when ever you "Bounce" a file too. You are working in a digital enviroment not analog. Dithering was needed for exporting to CD in the analog days - these days its needed in your DAW too, because you're in a digital realm. @Scott C. Stahl Feel free to read.

Awaiting pics

Confirmed, I see this in Mercury theme only. Mercury Classic has black buttons with White text/icon and still looks a little strange, but very functional. I'm sure the UX Bakers will be all over this in the next release/patch. I'm a Light Theme user myself and it is much improved in 2025.05, in my opinion.

Sounds like the DC coupling section in the input of your amp is kaput. Tube amps are especially susceptible to this kind of induced noise.

Hi Sjoens, I added the post below 14 hours ago and thought it would make the thread resurface but it didn't seem to.

Hi, I just got a Joyo Chopper Z distortion/preamp pedal and I'm having a weird problem. The pedal generates an audible distortion/dropout when bypassed. This happens only when plugged into my amp (an Orange Terror Stamp that I'm using as a recording preamp with no cab), but not when plugged directly to the interface. The sound is like a voltage drop when notes get louder and it sounds nasty. I checked with different patch cables and comparing with other pedals but it really is the bypassed Joyo and only when plugged into my amp. Did I get a dud?

Just reply with a new post there and it will bounce to the top. Most common method is a one-word post "bump".

Looks like the new Sonar build that came out seems to have resolved my problem. GEN 4 sounds ok now. It's brighter than GEN 3, but only in the way you'd expect with the better drivers. I was hoping the new install would overwrite any bad install files and it seems to have done it. Just tested everything out OK. My thanks to all for the replies and suggestions! I'm gonna be side eyeing every new install even more than ever from now on!

Which is what I always thought. It's just in preferences there is just a dialog to turn it off or the various types. Just for giggles, since I was having problems, I had tried recording after just changing the dither settings and they sounded different, but after further tests it's simply voice level and variation. So the dithering issue was my overthinking after all. Jeez. As for the rest, I'm about to post that the GEN 4 problem has been solved by the new build which came out yesterday. The GEN 4 is brighter than GEN 3 now but not distorted as it was before. Appreciate the input

Hey Joad this didn't let me down -- terrific mix and your guitar/bass is perfect for this song -- what a tone. Vocals have just the right amount of nonchalance for this genre -- good good listen -- Allan.

Hey Paul, everything is boffo on this except the drums on the verses seem a tad off kilter. I like those chord changes on the chorus a lot and the bass is terrific -- enjoyed the listen -- Allan.

Absolutely terrific -- puts me in mind of something Colin Moulding might have done in XTC -- great work -- Allan.

Sounds like you uninstalled CbB which might account for the lack of plugins. I suggest you install it again

Not sure if this has been covered already, but the only time you should use dither is when you're exporting from a higher bit depth to a lower one. The classic example of this is when going from 24 bit to 16 bit with the intention of burning a CD. At all other times it should be disabled

Today I installed the latest version of Sonar, and I can say: I think this is the best version in the last year or two! After this update, I now have everything in order with the display of all texts in all windows and sections, the names of modules appeared in the "Style Dial FX" section, which was not there before this update. In addition, the text has now become more contrasting in the windows of the pop-up hint in all places where it appears - on the "Automation" line, in the Piano-roll, etc. And now the track numbers are displayed in the headers, which I also did not have before. And today I am happy - I have a perfectly installed and configured Windows 10 system, I have the best DAW for serious and productive work with music in any style, and the very first project opened today also loaded faster, and is played with less consumption of system resources! I thank with all my heart the entire team of developers and everyone involved in the "polishing" of my favorite program, happiness to you and good health to all!

Another vote from me against this now time thing, though not entirely. I can completely see the logic of moving it; it made no sense where it was. However, I think this is an example of under-solving a problem. It sensibly belongs alongside the main now time, but there's not actually room to make it readable without redesigning that box more throughly. "Just make it tiny" is not a solution. A swing and a miss, IMO. To generalise this point a bit, I dabble with each Sonar version as it comes out, but I haven't yet got a membership. The subscription model isn't my favourite, but it's the generally worse readability than CbB that's actually holding me back. The main interface is quite good, but things like this and the pro channel EQ UI are frustratingly inferior to the previous versions.

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