Using AI for composition - Can i use the song ?

[giant ll]

Hi all. I've never thought to use AI for composition, i usually make by myself.

Anyway.. i've been impressed from something that comes out using pages like: Aimusic so, Udio or similar. 

That would be useful for me expecially when i don't have 24 hours musicians playing with me.. i can experiment different arrangement ideas and it could give me good ideas about it.

Anyway.. i have a doubt expecially for the Copyright part..

When i search on Google about this, i find hours and hours videos of lawyers that say different things.. in a different languages sometimes.

I use to make my Songs as Personal Demo expecially, for present me as Guitarist in Schools, in Events, monetize is not the "first" reason. I would like to play it and put on Youtube for example.. but mine is very "simple" use.

If i should listen 10 hours of Videos everyday.. just to understand how copyright works.. all the utility to make me arrange and compose quickly would disappear if i have to be lawyer, just to understand if i can use the song or not..  If the song is mine or not. It's a way to say..

I would have a question: Which Page or App would you reccomend me, if you reccomend me to use AI, and at which price?

If possible: One with "clear" and "simply" rules...  I would like to find one free or with low price if is possible.

 

 

Thanks in advance

Edited December 11 by giant ll

[giant ll]

Another question is:

Sometimes when i try to arrange a melody with IA, it make something that by ear sounds good.. but it's almost impossible to play. For example if i select "progressive metal" style. I have the impression that it just consider the notes, and the notes are nice.. but it don't consider the position, because it's not human. If i take a note at the 1st fret and another at the 10th.. for example is impossible to play, or much much difficult. When i try to compose in that way, sometimes.. i see something that it's almost impossible to play and minutes and minutes of crazy solos.. Only Dream Theater could play this ! lol

Is there a way to make the IA consider the guitar position that it reccomend to you, using also the difficulties of picking, harmonics and other things?

[Amberwolf]

You mention "IA" several times, but you don't tell us what it is.  Perhaps if you did, we might be able to help answer the question.

A websearch found a few things like Internal Affairs, Iowa, In Absentia, etc, but I can't figure out how any of those are related to what you're asking about. 

[OutrageProductions]

45 minutes ago, Amberwolf said:

Perhaps if you did, we might be able to help answer the question.

P.T. Barnum would be so proud.

[giant ll]

11 hours ago, Amberwolf said:

You mention "IA" several times, but you don't tell us what it is.  Perhaps if you did, we might be able to help answer the question.

A websearch found a few things like Internal Affairs, Iowa, In Absentia, etc, but I can't figure out how any of those are related to what you're asking about. 

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I thought it was obvious what I was talking about because I mentioned sites like UDIO, Aimusic.so, and similar ones.

You can read about this in my post.

I try to be more clear:

I just removed the dots from the site address because I was afraid it would look like spam and the post would be blocked.

This may have made it unclear that it was an address.

I mean IA as short for Artificial Intelligence. The only difference is that I wrote IA (in the order we would write it in my language), and in English we usually use AI; the letters are placed in the opposite order.

This is the "heart" of misunderstanding "IA" or "AI", sorry for this.

However, to be more precise, I was thinking of using sites like SUNO with the PRO plan or similar for composition (because with the free plan I can't do practically anything in terms of publishing). I would also like to know if there are other apps or sites you recommend I use, and the questions asked in my first post are still valid. Best regards.

 

P.s: i can change the Title to prevent misunderstanding

Edited December 11 by giant ll

[giant ll]

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/it/policies/ai-explained/

If you read this page in my language it say.. IA and not AI. The problem is that if you are in an english language country i think that the computer would translate directly the short form with AI, that's why searching on Google "IA" you don't find related results.. and i find THOUSAND MUSICAL RESULTS using it.

 

If you change the language in this page, you will that see that the Short Form most used could CHANGE.

AI: If you translate in English language. (Artificial Intelligence)

IA: in italian and french languages (Intelligenza Artificiale or Intelligence Artificielle)

KI: in German i think(Künstliche Intelligenz?)

Sztuczna inteligencja: in Poland.

intleacht shaorga (IS):  in Gaelic i think and similar...

They are just examples.. i hope i didn't make mistake.

So the Short Form most used.. could change in different countries. IA and AI are really similar  and both really common and used in so many different countries.. and i've thought it was really clear the meaning of the post.. 

 

There is a command at the top right to change directly the language and see how this site show all the different short form used.

 

Anyway: i think is better don't use  IS or KI because are totally different and in a english language  post.

For this: I've changed the Title because my post was in English language and it's correct, now is more clear. 

 

Edited December 11 by giant ll

[mettelus]

Rather than approach this in a broad manner, delve into the specifics of whatever AI tool you are using. Reason I say this is because I saw a post while ago where the site itself (I forget the name of it now) claimed it had "ownership" of anything you created while using it.

[giant ll]

56 minutes ago, mettelus said:

Rather than approach this in a broad manner, delve into the specifics of whatever AI tool you are using. Reason I say this is because I saw a post while ago where the site itself (I forget the name of it now) claimed it had "ownership" of anything you created while using it.

My first choice at the moment is SUNO (Pro Plan).

I've selected the Pro Plan because the Free Plan don't give you Commercial use rights for new songs made. And this is sure, it's written on the SUNO page. In this last two days i'm trying to find a bit of informations about it.. that's what i've known.

Edited December 11 by giant ll

[giant ll]

My question isn't obvious.

I asked because there's a bit of a gray area behind music made with AI, and there are things that aren't fully understood without going into more detail.

For example, from what I know: if I created the song with a PRO subscription, I would own THE SONG  but not the copyright. I can use it in a commercial way(theoretically). I have the right to upload it to the platforms granted by the company, and with the company that provides me the AI service, everything is fine. So far so good... But... there's a but... If fragments of the music made with (AI) resemble famous songs, could I face claims from major record labels? If so, how does that work?

Is it enough to remove the song, or can they sue you, given that if you publish the song according to certain contracts, you're responsible for what you publish? Some things don't seem very clear to me... that's why there are 10-hour videos of lawyers monetizing and saying everything and the opposite of everything. I need honest advice from real musicians who have experience publishing music. If you stick to what's on the internet, you'll never get out of it... many doubts, at least for me personally, remain...

Edited Saturday at 02:37 PM by giant ll

[Amberwolf]

Those are all questions you'd have to pay a lawyer to answer with even a remote bit of certainty...and the reality is that until it is tested in court, you still won't know the answer.  

Every person you ask is likely to have a variant opinion.  Since none of them is likely to be the one dealing with your specific legal situation for you when something happens, what they say doesn't really matter.

You can ask the companies whose services you will use to see what they say, but unless they are providing you with legal certainties in documented form, and you have a lawyer to interpret them all for you, those are probably not the final answer either. 

[giant ll]

On 12/14/2025 at 3:13 AM, Amberwolf said:

Those are all questions you'd have to pay a lawyer to answer with even a remote bit of certainty...and the reality is that until it is tested in court, you still won't know the answer.  

Every person you ask is likely to have a variant opinion.  Since none of them is likely to be the one dealing with your specific legal situation for you when something happens, what they say doesn't really matter.

You can ask the companies whose services you will use to see what they say, but unless they are providing you with legal certainties in documented form, and you have a lawyer to interpret them all for you, those are probably not the final answer either. 

Yes, I understand what you are saying, these are not trivial questions. it's a complex topic, sometimes even for lawyers themselves.

Law change over time and you would have to pay lawyers, somebody pay thousands of euros to always be informed... as long as it works well.. because they can make mistakes too.

My personal opinion is that some laws works more for big producers, majors, millionaires, but for the musician who monetizes 10/30/50 euros from a song(it's a way to say)... it's not an option to pay very expensive lawyers because he can't afford it. In my country is been approved a new law.. in end of Semptember.. it makes also more complicated. It's been one of the first nations in Europe to make it..  You should know international and local laws, sometimes.

Then a text can be corrected by artificial intelligence, even politicians do it... I think my former dance teacher did it, the altar boy in my church does it for speeches, and I think millions of people... including politicians... the same ones who often make the laws...

 

How do you realize that he made put commas on the lyrics  by Gemini if not by ChatGPT? Starting the topic himself? Many don't declare it but you also notice it because they leave the lines used by one software or another. But it's not a proof, you can just notice and recognise some signals.

 

I have some songs that I really like made with the help of AI. 

AI is a tool for me .. but if it is not in the hands of a good musician or composer it can do terrible things anyway. I've heard some terrible ones... I had to do lot of tests to come up with something decent,  consuming a lot of (paid) credits for just one song.

The AI has been very useful to me since I can't have musicians playing for me 24 hours a day when I want to compose something, ear how it sounds.

 It is making me develop very interesting things in music and I try to put into practice the ideas that the AI provides me using the parameters given by myself.  Obviously the amount of software I know has limits... but... I see that I am creating things that I hadn't thought of before.

 

P.S: what I said is my personal opinion.

Edited Tuesday at 09:32 PM by giant ll

[giant ll]

In conclusion: to avoid problems, I try to create contents more  personalized as possible, in my own small way.

Even though many modern works I hear seem like copy-and-pastes of others with few variations. When a machine makes recommendations, however, you have to be careful that what it recommends doesn't sound like anything else... and you're entering a very large and complex world. Because i don't know how machine learn. Much of what we do with computers, even basic operations like correcting a text, creating a section of lyrics with AI, i'm afraid could  risks causing us to lose the commercial rights to what we do. How many persons use Gemini or similar for lyrics? in this case should read Google rules. It's an example. It's not only AI in stricht sense but lot of software we could use for working in our song.. also the modify of a picture.

We should read the contract with every company who give us a service.

 

I try to use it just as example but personalize lot.. that's the easier way to avoid problem i think.

I try  to read contracts carefully and be on my guard. Computers are often used very lightly these days... even preparing a shopping list, but sometimes i have doubts.

 

In the case of my last Song: i have my answer by myself and is negative. I had used Suno with Pro contract, i would have the possibility to use It in a commercial way, but.. the problem is elsewhere: i've used Gemini to strongly elaborate the lyrics. Google  don't give possibility to use It in a commercial way.. for what i know, and so.. i Will not publish the Song:(

the work should be thrashed but.. i will se if i can change only the Lyrics in Suno, withouth trashing the work, I'll ask for this 

Edited Tuesday at 04:31 PM by giant ll