No inspector in console view

[charles kasler]

I posted about this before and didn't get it figured out. I thought it must be just that one particular project but here it is again in a new project. I've checked views, hidden tracks, the shortcut doesn't work. Any other ideas? Thank you

[Promidi]

I am going to assume you’re using the latest Sonar 2025.

The Inspector has always worked here (with all Cakewalk iterations that had it)

Maybe you have a corrupted Project Template and you need to create a new Template (one where the Inspector works).

If you start a new project and select “Empty” or “-- No Tracks or Buses --”, does the inspector work then?

[Chaps]

Just to clarify, which shortcut key are you using? Are your other shortcut keys working? Is it possible your track inspector is collapsed and the shortcut key doesn't expand it? Is the drag bar there to expand it manually? Is it possible that it is undocked and not visible? These are the first things I would check if it happened to me.

 

Edited Friday at 10:58 PM by Chaps

[charles kasler]

Thanks for those responses, I'm away from my computer but will check tomorrow and report back.

[sjoens]

Try Workspaces - the #1 culprit for workspace issues and the 1st thing to check when things don't look right.

[charles kasler]

Thanks for your responses, a new project works fine, I wasn't using a template because I was just editing old projects, latest version of sonar, other shortcuts work and I'm using the I shortcut, the default, I think it may be collapsed but there's no drag bar to expand it, it is docked and I have the free version so no workspaces, I've never used them. There's something about no drag bar visible, I think that's the key but I don't know what to do about it

[Bass Guitar]

There have been several graphic related glitches in the new Sonar Ive both seen reported here as well as I have a few myself. 
So possibly this is yet another example. 
Take screenshots and open a ticket with support. 
Post the screenshot here too as we might spot something. 
 

One thing I can think of is if at some point the project was saved when floating. 

I have the free version myself and due to the lack of workspace s it’s a royal pain. Every project opens weird and I have to manually move stuff around. 

My latest graphic glitch is If I open the Browser in existing projects the instrument tab is highlighted but it’s showing the list of effects. 
It doesn’t do this with new projects. 
 

I wrote it off as happening just because I probably saved my workspace in Cakewalk and the instrument tab was my default. I think the effects tab is the default. 

The other one was in the export dialogue but they fixed it after being reported. So that is why I recommend reporting directly to support and not just here. 
 

 

[lapasoa]

In the control bar if you open view and then click on inspector no result?

[charles kasler]

Am I missing something in the screenshot? Clicking the inspector in view doesn't help. How do I open a support ticket?

[Bass Guitar]

That’s the multi dock open full screen. it will be hidden behind that view. 
Float it. 
Now as you drag it down the bottom will turn blue to show you where it is legal to dock. As you move it up and down you will see that in the upper area the inspector and the browser are not blocked off but if you move it down the blue bar will go full screen and you won’t see the inspector. 
I thought you were not seeing it in the track view. 
 

 

[charles kasler]

Thanks, I thought it must have been something like that. I've never used or understood floating and docking. I hate to be dense but I'm still not getting it. If I right click console down in the lower left docking area it gives me the choice of undocking the console view. How do I set it up without floating, that seems too messy to me? I've always just gone back and forth between track and console with shortcuts.

[sjoens]

FWIW, full screen CV is how I have it too. Then hit D to switch back to TV view which should have the Inspector.

You can have Inspector in the CV but it's rather redundant except for the MIDI strip.

Floating is nice if you have another screen to put it on so TV and CV are open full screen together.

[Bass Guitar]

2 hours ago, sjoens said:

You can have Inspector in the CV but it's rather redundant except for the MIDI strip.

This!  
I have always had the 2 monitors so my default was the Multi Dock floated to second monitor. 

But sometimes when working with Melodyne I wanted the Multi Dock view of Melodyne editor open below the track I was working on. 

That’s why I loved it when they introduced Workspaces. I could now set that up and save it. 
 

Over time I have abandoned using the second monitor for the Multi Dock in favour of using the one screen and toggling using D to open the multi dock 3/4 screen.
I need my second monitor more for doing other things. 

The Browser and Inspector are mostly hidden. You get very used to using the shortcuts I - D and B. 

I know a lot of people don’t use Workspaces but I sure did. I said did because I don’t have them anymore due to using Platinum. And I guess they are also missing from the free version. 

Im back to putting up with the stupid mindless screen-sets. I hate them. 
 

 

Edited Saturday at 11:59 PM by Bass Guitar

[sjoens]

1 hour ago, Bass Guitar said:

stupid mindless screen-sets.

I represent that remark. 

[charles kasler]

Thanks again for everyone's input. D is a great shortcut, I didn't know about that before. There's still something fishy about my project, all I can think is that it's some kind of bug. I compared with my template which shows the inspector and it looks exactly the same except there's no inspector and no pull bar or whatever you call it it in my project, no response from the shortcut I. I don't think there's anything left to test. I know someone told me to float the view but it's just not comfortable for me.

[user905133]

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TOPIC:   No inspector in console view

I give up.  I tried getting the Inspector Strips to show up within the Console view. What are the precise steps?  Thanks.

Caveat: I don't use the Inspector Strips as much as I use the Console and when I do, it is almost in the Main Project Display Area next to the Track View.  I have on occasion  floated the Inspector Strips, but I am more likely to toggle the Track View and the Console View in the Main Project Display Area using D.  Occasionally, I use a custom Workspace with a full-sized Console on Mon. 2

I tried (in response to reading the posts here, some several times) to figure out how to get the Inspector Strips within the Console.  An internal voice nags me saying, "Ignore the OP" and "Maybe the OP doesn't really mean what he seems to be saying."

The most optimistic I can be is, "Maybe the OP means, 'Sometimes when I have a large Console View in my Main Project Display Area and the Track View is not showing, I can't do anything to get the Inspector Strips to show.'"

I dunno.  It seems like it might be cool to have the Inspector Strips within the Console View (perhaps toggled with an optional I shortcut under certain conditions) if people would use it instead of presently available methods. 

Edited 21 hours ago by user905133
fixed typo

[Glenn Stanton]

as far as i can tell, the inspector strip is it's own child window.  it has it's own docked left/right, undocked etc view options

but if you're running multiple monitors (for example) i would presume you could undock both the console view and  the inspector and place them into the preferred monitor...

[user905133]

23 minutes ago, Glenn Stanton said:

as far as i can tell, the inspector strip is it's own child window.  it has it's own docked left/right, undocked etc view options

. . ,

but if you're running multiple monitors (for example) i would presume you could undock both the console view and  the inspector and place them into the preferred monitor...

Interesting. I never thought of trying to put Inspector Strips on Mon 2.  I'll test it out!  Who knows? I might even be able to stumble onto a condition / set of steps where both Track View and the Console View are full width on Mon 1 and D just toggles those 2 and the Inspector is shown no matter what.  

Thanks for the reply!

Edited 20 hours ago by user905133
word changes for the sake of clarity

[Chaps]

I just want to add that if the Track Inspector is undocked the 'i' keyboard shortcut will bring it into view even if the Console View is full screen. The Track Inspector will stay in whatever place you put it so it is possible to have it mimic a strip in the Console View when it is visible.

[Bass Guitar]

A few years ago I made a tutorial on this very topic that shows how you can have all sorts of different views and that most are all independently floating and then there’s different docking options as shown in @Glenn Stanton example. Then the shortcuts make all this work very easily. 
My understanding of how to use all the various view features makes it easier to use only one monitor. 

The blue highlighted docking options are important as you float the view. Some things that are in the Browser can be put in the multi dock. That way all you need are the tabs at the bottom to get at just about everything. 

And did you know that the track pane is the only view that you can’t hide or float. You can only shrink it by dragging the dividers. 

Any how that video only got under 100 views so I removed it Seems learning about views in Cakewalk was not a hot topic. 

Bottom line is it was all very customizable in Cakewalk. If you are using the free version I am finding that this sort of stuff doesn’t work like it used to. It’s the ghost living in the new graphics.