Making a part of a track louder?

[Leander]

Hi!

How can I make a part of a track louder? e.g. my guitars are left, right and a lead guitar. During the lead, the right guitar should be x db lower in volume. There are envelopes...but what is the difference between automation: volume and clip automation: gain?

The problem is that both the left and right tracks go to a guitar bus. The bus has the EZ Mix 3 sound, the Andy Sneap fix and a guitar bus from EZ Mix 3.
Without busses, it works, but with the bus, the volume is not reduced when applied to the track with an envelope. 

How can I make a track's part from time x to time y softer by some dbs, BUT the track has a bus out?

[Bristol_Jonesey]

2 hours ago, Leander said:

both the left and right tracks go to a guitar bus

How are you doing this? Are you directing the track Outputs to the bus or are you using Sends? 

Using the track output should always respect any levels set by a volume envelope

Have you got Global Read Automation switched on in the control bar?

[Leander]

I have two guitar tracks. One is 100% left, one 100% right...both go to the guitar bus.
How can I lower a part of one of them? What is the difference between automation: volume and clip automation: gain?

[OutrageProductions]

Google "RTFM"

[Alan Tubbs]

Volume automation affects the entire track.  Clip automation effects separate Clips within your track.  It can help with matching vol of separate takes at different volumes.

[reginaldStjohn]

I know some people don't like these kinds of answers but the manual explains a lot of this. Plus, reading the manual you may gain other insights that others may not mention.

https://legacy.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=Automation.01.html

In a nutshell Volume, track automation and clip automation are all basically the same thing. As mentioned by Alan Tubbs, Volume affect any audio passing through the track into the volume control. Automation is a way to have the track volume follow an envelope that changes the volume of a track over time. Clip automation is the same but only affects that clips parameter. Gain, is a bit different and in Cakewalk is not automatable to my knowledge. It affects the level of the signal going into the track channel before effects and before the volume control.  There is a signal diagram in the documentation that shows where each of the controls happen in the flow of the audio signal. pp918

 

 

[bvideo]

Using sends? Sends can be pre or post. Maybe you want post so that track volume is followed

[Leander]

Thanks! It is not that I'm too lazy, but technical things are difficult to understand. Been struggling for many years. I use stupid workarounds such as manually copying a part of a guitar to a new track to adjust the volume there, but it is tedious...that's why I'm asking what the best solution is.

Clip volume used to work well...but only if I have all FX in every track WITHOUT busses.

e.g.

Track 1: guitar L: EZ Mix 3 distortion, C4, EZ Mix 3 bus
out: master

Track 2: guitar R: EZ Mix 3, distortion, C4, EZ Mix 3 bus
out: master

This works with clip envelopes...

BUT:

Track 1: guitar L
out: guitar bus
Track 2: guitar R
out: guitar bus

-> envelopes do not work. The sound of a certain track isn't changed UNLESS I use e.g. -15db or more...

What am I missing? Is it because the guitar bus ignores the individual track volume (and envelope changes)?

[Bass Guitar]

Possibly the effects you are using on the Bus are dynamic effects which might be set to increase the levels of any tracks coming into them.
You turn the tracks down and the effect turns them back up. 
So you need to use a different signal path to avoid this. 
Example you would need to automate the output of the bus. 
Either that or put the effects on each of the tracks not a bus. 
You have made it more complicated by trying to share the same effects with 3 tracks.