Delete Special vs Ripple Edit

[sjoens]

Ever since X2 we've had "special" versions of Copy, Cut, Paste, and Delete.  Delete Special has enough options, including delete hole, to sometimes not need Ripple Edit.  With all options checked, the data after the deleted area slides back to remove the gap with no bouncing required on MIDI tracks.  It works for all tracks at once too.

Just like Ripple Edit for some reason, Audio tracks are left with a new clip requiring a bounce.

Currently no key bindings are assigned but can be.

Edited October 17 by sjoens

[Bass Guitar]

I think the difference is that Ripple edit also removes chunks of data from the tempo track and automation. Im pretty sure deleting a hole doesn’t. 

[sjoens]

I'm sure RE is more robust but for quick simple jobs, Delete Special works without worrying about whether I forgot to turn RE off or not. 

[Wookiee]

@sjoens both delete and delete special are not as complete as they could be. Ripple Edit affects all data, including envelopes. 

[David Baay]

8 hours ago, Wookiee said:

@sjoens both delete and delete special are not as complete as they could be. Ripple Edit affects all data, including envelopes. 

Yes, and Delete Hole notoriously will not work in an empty area of the project; there has to be some clip selected. It was the shortcomings of Delete Hole plus issues with the  'Move Over to Make Room' option for  drag and drop that drove to the implementation of Ripple Editing.

[AB99]

Why not improve the delete hole option with an extra box asking it to move the tempo data and also allow it to move data appropriately when there is no data in the hole?  It seems that having these separated functions of delete hole and ripple edit just make the program it more complicated.

[Amberwolf]

11 minutes ago, AB99 said:

Why not improve the delete hole option with an extra box asking it to move the tempo data and also allow it to move data appropriately when there is no data in the hole? 

And (not having tested in anything modern) if it stil has the issue it does in my ancient versions of not moving bus automation...that too.   

 

 

[sjoens]

I remember some of those issues years ago, but after running a few tests in X3, SPlat and CbB I find Delete Special improved with each version and actually works as expected in CbB.  At least in small simple projects.  But as with all things, know the limits and use accordingly.

 

[Chaps]

Just thought I'd post a screencap of the Delete Special options in the latest Sonar free version (same as the Cut Special options).