midi and tts1

[fastdraw]

hi

Before, when I opened a midi file, I had the tracks assigned to the instruments with tts.
Now I only have the midi tracks, without knowing which instrument it is!

How to assign the default tts when opening a midi? To guide me towards the choice of instruments

[Wookiee]

@fastdraw not sure how long it is since you visited here or installed the latest version of Cakewalk Sonar sub or free, but TTS-1 is no longer included as part of the package. The TTS-1 program belonged to Roland who have withdrawn support for it and requested that Cakewalk no longer supply it.

[fastdraw]

Is there an equivalent ?

[Wookiee]

1 hour ago, fastdraw said:

Is there an equivalent ?

Not included in Cakewalk Sonar, there are however similar multitimbral plugins some free some not so free.

[Bristol_Jonesey]

2 hours ago, fastdraw said:

Is there an equivalent ?

If you had TTS-1 as part of a previous installation then you should still have access now.

So which previous version(s) did you have and what have you uninstalled?

[user905133]

In addition to what others have said, there is also hardware from decades ago that have the Roland sounds from which the TTS-1 sounds were inherited.

4 hours ago, fastdraw said:

Now I only have the midi tracks, without knowing which instrument it is!

If the midi tracks follow a standard sound bank assignment format (e.g., General MIDI) the tracks actually do know what instruments are supposed to be assigned because they should include standardized MIDI Program Change commands.

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How to assign the default tts when opening a midi? To guide me towards the choice of instruments

So, if you want to try to re-orchestrate the file following the instruments used (but not necessarily the somewhat standardized sounds) you could do that with a numerical listing of the GM/GS instrument assignments. 

For example, the first few Program Change commands [aka patches / presets] are pianos with slightly different sound characteristics, but if you have hardware or software synths (or a sampler, or virtual instruments/sound libraries), you could choose any piano, Likewise with guitars, strings, brass, etc.  

 

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[fastdraw]

2 hours ago, Wookiee said:

Not included in Cakewalk Sonar, there are however similar multitimbral plugins some free some not so free.

Which ones? I'm looking for the best (minimum 16 tracks)

 

[Wookiee]

1 hour ago, fastdraw said:

Which ones? I'm looking for the best (minimum 16 tracks)

 

I don't know, I don't use multitimbral plugins. If I want a multitimbral synth I use my JV1080. 

Perhaps you could try searching the Internet for them Roland hasone no idea what it is called.

[Promidi]

I concur with the hardware solution. 

I have used an SW1000XG card (in another PC) since 2002 and this has pretty much been immune to all this TT-S fiasco.....

[msmcleod]

You can always try the Yamaha S-YXG50 - it's 32 bit though, and JBridge is recommended when using it:   Yamaha S-YXG50 Portable VSTi v1.0.0

 

[Bass Guitar]

Sonar is possibly one of the only Daw’s that no longer supports GM playback. Funny thing is that Cakewalk Next does. Next has a way better system of handling midi files. 
Go figure. 
 

When you open a midi file in the new Sonar it will only populate the project with midi tracks but there is no GM instrument included anymore. 
 

I replace that with SynthFont  A fully supported GM player available for around $20. 
 

But you can also replace some stuff like the bass   Drums and electric piano and strings with the SI instruments. 

It’s a total PITA however what is involved to actually do this in a tidy way when other Daw’s do this automatically. 

 

[Wookiee]

2 hours ago, Bass Guitar said:

Sonar is possibly one of the only Daw’s that no longer supports GM playback. Funny thing is that Cakewalk Next does. Next has a way better system of handling midi files. 
Go figure. 

Are you sure about that broad statement "Sonar no longer supports GM (General MIDI) playback". Cakewalk Sonar is most definitely MIDI 1.n compliant. 

Don't you mean Sonar no longer provides a basic multitimbral instrument that complies with the GM instrument set?

Personally I have no problems playing back the basic GM sound sets without TTS-1.