Voicemeeter Stress / VB Audio Cable (how to get a Sonar Sound recorded with Audacity or something else)

[Astraios]

2 hours ago, mettelus said:

Bottom line is to check all routings... what do you need to hear/monitor, and what does your tutorial need to hear/record? When reading what you are trying to do, it seems that a DAW is superfluous to me... what is the "need" for a DAW in what you are doing? A video tutorial is your end goal, correct?

I put this YouTube clip together 2 or 3 days ago using Filmora and Voicemeeter... (without Loopback  🧑‍🚀  and it is in VP9 High quality Codec, which isn't easy to archive - so, a bit of understanding is part of my business

Touch Portal as MIDI Controller on Cakewalks Z3TA+2 in Sonar DAW

Edited 5 hours ago by Astraios

[Will.]

2 hours ago, Astraios said:

using Filmora

Perhaps this is your problem. I'm not too familiar with Filmora, but the rest of the world is using OBS or Streamlabs to record their screens and system audio. I record four camera angles and the system audio in both applications, and I use SONAR with the Focusrite loopback, utilizing my ASIO drivers to capture all four mic inputs for the podcast.

You're complicating things unnecessarily. Major broadcast companies use these free applications because it makes the work 100x easier. Streamlabs is more popular among female YouTubers because it has a paid version that comes with hundreds of overlays including makeup beauty filters and those weird effects Snapchat and TikTok have.

[mettelus]

2 hours ago, Astraios said:

I was able to do everything with Voicemeeter and VB-Audio Cable "without any problems."

This is where you should have stopped; your needs were met. Unfortunately, it is fairly commonplace for folks to rabbit-hole others with "my way is superior" rather than reading the OP and answering the question/intent of the OP. Suggestions are perfectly fine and more than welcome, but invalidating another's efforts and destroying their work is WAY over the top for me. Very rarely is there only one way to do something, so how others do something is totally irrelevant if your method works for you. I am sorry you went through this, especially since you were struggling and found a solution.

If you want to take on suggestions for other methods when you have free time, that is a perfect way to learn and expand your toolbox, but be very wary about undoing a method you know works already.

[Bass Guitar]

Hey @Will. question, seeing as you have the Focusrite, Do you have to set up anything special in the Control app?  As in there’s a mixer channel for the Loopback that can be muted etc? 
At no point has the OP confirmed that they tried the same settings as I used and had no problems. 
The clue that it could be the Focusrite mixer app is they are claiming that they can’t get audio out of Sonar. 
 

 

 

[azslow3]

3 hours ago, Astraios said:

 Someone suggested that was nonsense and that I should use Focusrite Loopback, which for some reason doesn't work for me. I could record sound from YouTube with Sonar using the loopback, but I couldn't record anything going out. 

 You need to check Focusrite Loopback is enabled. In Windows 11:

1) right click the speaker icon, select "Sound settings" ("Soundeinstellungen")

2) in appeared panel select "More sound settings" ("Weitere Soundeinstellungen").

3) in appeared panel select "Recording" tab ("Aufnahme"). Try to find something like "Focusrite feedback". If not there, right click on any and select "Show deactivated devices" ("Deaktivierte Geräte anzeigen"). Right click on Focusrite feedback (I guess it should be there), select "Activate" ("Aktivieren") (obviously in case it is deactivated).

4) you should be able to select it as input in Audacity and other programs. And hopefully it can record Sonar then.

PS. You could record in Sonar because it is in the set of ASIO input channels, unrelated to windows settings. 

[Astraios]

1 hour ago, Will. said:

 

I don't like the OBS GUI at all. I'd work with FL Studio, but Sonar just looks good. For me, the visual aspect is a big factor. I don't really care what others use... but thanks for the tip.

[Astraios]

25 minutes ago, azslow3 said:

 You need to check Focusrite Loopback is enabled. In Windows 11:

1) right click the speaker icon, select "Sound settings" ("Soundeinstellungen")

2) in appeared panel select "More sound settings" ("Weitere Soundeinstellungen").

3) in appeared panel select "Recording" tab ("Aufnahme"). Try to find something like "Focusrite feedback". If not there, right click on any and select "Show deactivated devices" ("Deaktivierte Geräte anzeigen"). Right click on Focusrite feedback (I guess it should be there), select "Activate" ("Aktivieren") (obviously in case it is deactivated).

4) you should be able to select it as input in Audacity and other programs. And hopefully it can record Sonar then.

PS. You could record in Sonar because it is in the set of ASIO input channels, unrelated to windows settings. 

I did everything because I always dig deep into all problems. But it didn't prepare the loopback for audio recording, but now I've had enough of the loopback.

[Astraios]

1 hour ago, mettelus said:

This is where you should have stopped; your needs were met. Unfortunately, it is fairly commonplace for folks to rabbit-hole others with "my way is superior" rather than reading the OP and answering the question/intent of the OP. Suggestions are perfectly fine and more than welcome, but invalidating another's efforts and destroying their work is WAY over the top for me. Very rarely is there only one way to do something, so how others do something is totally irrelevant if your method works for you. I am sorry you went through this, especially since you were struggling and found a solution.

 

That's a harsh judgment, but you have to put up with a lot on this forum. Thanks for your efforts anyway. 😇

From the beginning, this was more of a conversation between Will and me, who (probably rightly) claimed that I didn't need VoiceMeeter/VB-Audi Cable and that I could do it with the Focusrite Loopback (which only works to a limited extent for me). I didn't know it would develop into such an extensive discussion. But at least I now have the latest Focusrite drivers—not bad either.

Edited 1 hour ago by Astraios

[Will.]

2 minutes ago, Astraios said:

I don't like the OBS GUI at all. I'd work with FL Studio, but Sonar just looks good. For me, the visual aspect is a big factor. I don't really care what others use... but thanks for the tip.

Then use Voicemeeter as before. It's going to be a limited setup, but that's where this thread with solutions will come to a halt.  

[Will.]

1 hour ago, Bass Guitar said:

Hey @Will. question, seeing as you have the Focusrite, Do you have to set up anything special in the Control app?  

Nothing at all. 

1 hour ago, Bass Guitar said:

 As in there’s a mixer channel for the Loopback that can be muted etc? 

Yes. Control 2 comes with all the necessary routing setup needed. 

Loopback

Focusrite Loopback