Cakewalk Sonar Paid Membership Buffer question

[Larry T.]

In the old CbB once I set the Buffer Latency I never had to go back and reset it again.

In the paid Sonar Platinum it doesn't remember the buffer setting and, it appears that when I started Sonar Plat with a Focusrite Scarlett Solo interface already connected and the Focusrite ASIO driver selected before loading the project, it caused, immediately after opening a new project, a complete shutdown of Sonar. This repeated about three consecutive times.

So, I did a few restarts and shutdowns to see if it would self correct and it somewhat did.

However, when opening the new project about 3 of my midi synth tracks had no volume, about 3 did. So, I opened an old project and found the same thing.

So, I reopened the new project, which didn't shutdown at this point and checked the drivers. Running Windows 11; MME (32bit) is the new default driver Sonar (or Windows??) selects as the default. 

So, I checked the Buffer slide setting and found it was reset to Fast (all the way to the left). I found this to be a problem before and had found a stable setting at 20.0msec (882 samples) but something changed it.

So, once I set the Buffer back to 20.0msec all the problems above went away.

Anyone else had this or similar?

TIA.

Edited 2 hours ago by Larry T.

[Amberwolf]

Are you using Splat (sonar platinum) or are you using the new sonar premium?  Don't know if it makes a difference, but...

[Larry T.]

10 minutes ago, Amberwolf said:

Are you using Splat (sonar platinum) or are you using the new sonar premium?  Don't know if it makes a difference, but...

Hi Amberwolf.

Sonar Platinum premium. 

And....here's the latest:

In the new project started and underway I added some electric guitar using the Focusrite Scarlett Solo with its own Asio driver.

After recording for about an hour I closed the project and opened about a hour later.

I changed to the MME 32bit driver, opened the project and no audio on the midi synth. 

Luckily I did my routine of loading the Wasapi Shared driver, opening the project and still no audio.

Restarted the pc, opened the project, loaded the MME driver and it finally recognized it. Back to work I went.

So, what could it be? Windows 11, Focusrite or Splat paid issue? 

TIA.

[jayeyehaich64]

Sorry for being a bit thick, but it is a little confusing,  "Sonar Platinum premium." I've never hear SONAR Platinum referred to as that, as far as I know there is no such thing?

and

 "Splat paid issue" again, SONAR Platinum was only ever PAID

So are you using the new Cakewalk Sonar (note non capitals)

or 

SONAR Platinum (note capitalization)

or maybe easier put, are you using the newly released Sonar?

 

SONAR <- all caps, refers to the old SONAR's, Platinum and before

Sonar <- refers to the new version of Sonar to which there is a Paid version and a FREE version.

Edited yesterday at 02:15 AM by jayeyehaich64

[Larry T.]

8 minutes ago, jayeyehaich64 said:

Sorry for being a bit thick, but it is a little confusing,  "Sonar Platinum premium." I've never hear SONAR Platinum referred to as that, as far as I know there is no such thing?

and

 "Splat paid issue" again, SONAR Platinum was only ever PAID

So are you using the new Cakewalk Sonar (note non capitals)

or 

SONAR Platinum (note capitalization)

or maybe easier put, are you using the newly released Sonar?

 

SONAR <- all caps, refers to the old SONAR's, Platinum and before

Sonar <- refers to the new version of Sonar to which there is a Paid version and a FREE version.

Sonar Platinum paid version, released August 2025 👍

[jayeyehaich64]

7 minutes ago, Larry T. said:

Sonar Platinum paid version, released August 2025 👍

No, you are mistaken, if it was released in August 2025, it is Cakewalk Sonar to which there is a Paid version via Membership and a FREE version

There hasn't been a SONAR Platinum release since around 2017

Edited yesterday at 02:30 AM by jayeyehaich64

[Will.]

File>New>Set Tempo>Set As Default Template. 

 

[Larry T.]

10 minutes ago, Will. said:

File>New>Set Tempo>Set As Default Template. 

 

That will set the Buffer??

[Will.]

8 hours ago, Larry T. said:

That will set the Buffer??

Oh the "buffer" For some reason I thought you said Tempo. Had to read again.

 Launch Sonar.

• Preference
• Driver Settings
• Open the ASIO Panel and Set Buffer
• APPLY and Press OK
• Go to Workspace
• Select APPLY TO WORKSPACE
• Go to FILE
• Save As
• Replace your default template.
• Set As Default template

Edited 20 hours ago by Will.

[Larry T.]

1 minute ago, Will. said:

Of the "buffer" I thought you said Tempo. Had to read again.

Change Buffer in Windows and Launch Sonar

• Preference
• Driver Settings
• Match and Set Buffer
• Workspace
• APPLY TO WORKSPACE
• FILE
• Save As
• Replace to your default template.

Thanks. I'll try that.

I thought maybe the Focusrite Scarlett Solo may be resetting the Cakewalk Splat paid version Buffer setting. 

[Will.]

Just now, Larry T. said:

Thanks. I'll try that.

I thought maybe the Focusrite Scarlett Solo may be resetting the Cakewalk Splat paid version Buffer setting. 

Make sure this is also selected. 

[Bass Guitar]

Why do you keep saying Splat? Or Platinum? That was the Gibson version from 2017. 
As people are saying the new version is simply Called Sonar. 

To define the versions if you have the Membership it is referred to as Sonar Premium. The other version is called Sonar Free Tier. 
 

And why are you not using ASIO? 
Did you install the Focusrite driver? 

Edited 16 hours ago by Bass Guitar

[Larry T.]

1 hour ago, Bass Guitar said:

 

And why are you not using ASIO? 
Did you install the Focusrite driver? 

 

18 hours ago, Larry T. said:

 

In the paid Sonar Platinum it doesn't remember the buffer setting and, it appears that when I started Sonar Plat with a Focusrite Scarlett Solo interface already connected and the Focusrite ASIO driver selected before loading the project, it caused, immediately after opening a new project, a complete shutdown of Sonar. This repeated about three consecutive times.

 

 

[David Baay]

18 hours ago, Larry T. said:

I started Sonar Plat with a Focusrite Scarlett Solo interface already connected and the Focusrite ASIO driver selected before loading the project, it caused, immediately after opening a new project, a complete shutdown of Sonar. This repeated about three consecutive times.

There have been issues reported with a recently released driver update from Focusrite. I dont know whether Focusrite have yet addressed this. Check their website/forum for info, and maybe try downloading the previous driver release.

[Larry T.]

17 minutes ago, David Baay said:

There have been issues reported with a recently released driver update from Focusrite. I dont know whether Focusrite have yet addressed this. Check their website/forum for info, and maybe try downloading the previous driver release.

Thanks David. I will do that 👍

[Noel Borthwick]

Your thread is confusing. There is no Sonar platinum or sonar premium. There is only a single Sonar now. 

What you get depends on your bandlab membership tier. Free vs membership.

[Larry T.]

2 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

Your thread is confusing. There is no Sonar platinum or sonar premium. There is only a single Sonar now. 

What you get depends on your bandlab membership tier. Free vs membership.

Sorry for the confusion. My bad. Lots of things I'm having to deal with lately. 

I'm running:

Cakewalk Sonar Paid membership 

Version: 2025.08 (Build 035, 64 bit)

 

Update:

I downloaded the new Focusrite Scarlett Solo driver. Seems stable. No Cakewalk Sonar crashes at all. Still having issue with Buffer setting not remaining where I set it. Will run for a few days and post status.

Thanks for all the help and patience 👍

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Larry T.

[Wookiee]

@Larry T., does the buffer setting get changed by other apps? I have noticed running standalone Arturia apps forces my Clarett to 512. But running Sonar pushes back to either 128 or 96 which ever I left Sonar in.