wish sonar would not delete/combine tempo changes

[matt]

When spotting video there are a lot of reasons I would like my tempo changes to remain where they are...

Insert a tempo at measure 10.  120BPM.

Now Insert the same tempo (120BPM) at measure 9.

Because they are the same tempo, Cakewalk/Sonar adds the tempo change at measure 9 but deletes the tempo change at measure 10.

I have to go back and add the tempo change again at measure 10.

You can have multiple consecutive tempo changes at the same tempo, as long as you are adding them later in time.  But if you add one prior to another tempo change at the same tempo it combines them.  Is there any way to leave tempo changes as they are?  Otherwise I wind up having to create a marker at every tempo change.  I would like the behavior to be more like markers...

[OutrageProductions]

You're asking for an indication of tempo continuation, not tempo change. That's not a problem.

Even if you change the time signature, it's still at the same tempo.

[matt]

I guess it's a small thing that only takes a few seconds to add the deleted tempo marker back in but it would make a big difference (to me) when I am spotting a video for scoring to picture.  Here is a very simplified scenario, though it can be much more complicated:

Tempo measure 1 is 100 BPM.

Tempo measure 20 is 120 BPM.

I need to move some of the material at measure 20 to measure 10 at 120 BPM.  In order to keep measure 20 where it is in real time (relative to the video) this is going to create a third unknown tempo between the two.

The first thing I would do is to set the tempo at measure 10 to 120 BPM.

Cakewalk/Sonar then deletes the tempo change at measure 20 (since it is no longer changing tempo).  Now I have to go and add another tempo "change" at measure 20, so that I can work backwards and add the new unknown tempo in prior to measure 20 without affecting the material after.

It's not a big deal, having to add back in the tempo at measure 20, no.  But I would prefer if it didn't function in this way.  For one, in case I don't remember where the tempo change originally was, and for two, I will sometimes have a one-minute score to picture with 20-30 tempo changes... in that scenario it can become rather confusing when Cakewalk/Sonar is removing tempo changes.

 

[sjoens]

This only happens when inserting a tempo equal to the last tempo but different than the one before it.  As long as the new tempo equals the 2 tempos it goes between, it works.

IF measure 2 tempo = 150 and you insert 140 at m10, then again at m9, m10 disappears.

IF measure 2 tempo = 150 and you insert 140 at m8, then at m10, inserting the same tempo on each measure between them will remain.