Frank DeFede Posted Monday at 03:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:15 PM (edited) I am running Sonar on an HP Z820 with 128 GB Ram, CPUES-2680 @ 2.70GHz, with 2Processors. with 4 large Had Drives. I just found out that my HP Z820 is not compatible to update to Windows 11 Pro because the TPM 1.2 and Windows 11 needs 2.0, and also that my processor is not compatible even though Windows 11 only needs 1GHz, and my HP Z820 is way above that at 2.7GHz. I am just wondering if it would be better buy a new computer now with Windows 11 Pro installed or try to keep working with Windows 10 Pro on my HP ZION HP Z820. If I were to get a new or refurbished computer what should I get that will be somewhat comparable with what I have. Or do I even need something that powerful. There is a computer gut her in town who says he may be able to use a special installer and pass the problem with the TPM, and processor problem so I can update Windows 11 Pro, but I read online that that may be a problem for updates as they are released. Any suggestion on what to do here or what computer I could get that could compare is much appreciated. Maybe I don't need anything as powerful as I currently have? I am thinking maybe I should just keep running Windows 10 Pro, but I am concerned about security updates etc.. Thank You! Edited Monday at 03:18 PM by Frank DeFede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios.G Posted Monday at 03:26 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:26 PM (edited) 12 minutes ago, Frank DeFede said: I am running Sonar on an HP Z820 with 128 GB Ram, CPUES-2680 @ 2.70GHz, with 2Processors. with 4 large Had Drives. I just found out that my HP Z820 is not compatible to update to Windows 11 Pro because the TPM 1.2 and Windows 11 needs 2.0, and also that my processor is not compatible even though Windows 11 only needs 1GHz, and my HP Z820 is way above that at 2.7GHz. I am just wondering if it would be better buy a new computer now with Windows 11 Pro installed or try to keep working with Windows 10 Pro on my HP ZION HP Z820. If I were to get a new or refurbished computer what should I get that will be somewhat comparable with what I have. Or do I even need something that powerful. There is a computer gut her in town who says he may be able to use a special installer and pass the problem with the TPM, and processor problem so I can update Windows 11 Pro, but I read online that that may be a problem for updates as they are released. Any suggestion on what to do here or what computer I could get that could compare is much appreciated. Maybe I don't need anything as powerful as I currently have? I am thinking maybe I should just keep running Windows 10 Pro, but I am concerned about security updates etc.. Thank You! Both my rigs (in my signature) aren't compatible with windows 11 and I've been running it on both since it came out. Windows will allow you to install, you just have to google how. Edit: I realized I was a bit vague. Windows won't let you install from the automatic update route, but there is a windows iso that you can download direct which will let you, you have to google that though, it's been a while and I don't remember the correct one. Edited Monday at 03:28 PM by Helios.G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DeFede Posted Monday at 04:23 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 04:23 PM Thanks, I will google it. Frank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios.G Posted Monday at 04:50 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:50 PM 25 minutes ago, Frank DeFede said: Thanks, I will google it. Frank YW... BTW, your rig is more than powerful enough to run windows 11. I personally don't think you need to upgrade. I'd only upgrade if I absolutely had to. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DeFede Posted Monday at 10:46 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 10:46 PM I am trying my laptop first before risking mt z480 using flyby11. It seemed to be working, but is stuck at 31%. I am trying to work through it. Have you heard about flyby11? It allows you to get around the incompatible issue. Thanks Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios.G Posted Monday at 10:52 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:52 PM 1 minute ago, Frank DeFede said: I am trying my laptop first before risking mt z480 using flyby11. It seemed to be working, but is stuck at 31%. I am trying to work through it. Have you heard about flyby11? It allows you to get around the incompatible issue. Thanks Frank yes, I've heard of them, but that's not what I meant. I didn't mean for you to get a 3rd party iso. I know a lot of people use it, but it's not official and you don't know what it can do to your system. Try this video, see if it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DeFede Posted Monday at 11:57 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 11:57 PM Okay thanks, I will try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutrageProductions Posted Tuesday at 12:34 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:34 AM 1 hour ago, Frank DeFede said: Have you heard about flyby11? It allows you to get around the incompatible issue. Worked seamlessly for one of my CPU unqualified laptops. Lost my destop wallpaper & custom theme for Chrome browser, but everything else is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted Tuesday at 08:33 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:33 AM @Frank DeFede - do a full backup of your system before trying the upgrade. I've had compatibility issues with the Intel Graphics 4000 driver (the on-board graphics), and although the limitations don't affect me too much, that might not be the case for your processor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted Tuesday at 05:13 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:13 PM 8 hours ago, msmcleod said: @Frank DeFede - do a full backup of your system before trying the upgrade. I've had compatibility issues with the Intel Graphics 4000 driver (the on-board graphics), and although the limitations don't affect me too much, that might not be the case for your processor. I will point out here that Mark is referring to his i7 3770 system. Kinda old. My Windows 11 test system is an i7 4770, not much newer, and it works a treat. If there are any issues with the onboard graphics with a 3770, used nVidia cards are cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted Tuesday at 10:45 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:45 PM 5 hours ago, Starship Krupa said: If there are any issues with the onboard graphics with a 3770, used nVidia cards are cheap. Finding a used nVidia card that is supported both by an old motherboard and Windows 11 may prove challenging... I know, I've tried ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted Wednesday at 12:14 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:14 AM 57 minutes ago, msmcleod said: Finding a used nVidia card that is supported both by an old motherboard and Windows 11 may prove challenging... I know, I've tried ! The GT 1030 GDDR5 should do both. Make sure your muzzabo BIOS is up to date of course. I ran mine in my i7 3770 system and now it's in my i7 4770 system running Windows 11. eBay shows them for about USD 45.00 for ones with a blower and USD 50.00 for the fanless ones, which are of course great for DAW use (why I got mine). If I hadn't started gaming on my main system, it would still be in there. Sonar loves it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DeFede Posted Wednesday at 04:57 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 04:57 PM I wanted to thank everyone who responded to my post about upgrading to Windows 11 Pro on an unsupported computer. I ended up using the utility called FlyBy11 at https://github.com/builtbybel/flyby11, It worked great on my HP Z820 Zion machine that i use for music production with Sonar. I had no problems and everything seems to be working fine. On my HP Envy laptop it worked up to at point, but it stopped loading windows 11 at 31%. I tried several time. I am not sure why it gets stuck at 31% every time, but not too concerned about it as it is working great on my desktop, and I may replace the laptop with a new one anyway as I have been having problems with the headphone out, and the screen seems like it is getting dim. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios.G Posted Wednesday at 09:13 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:13 PM 4 hours ago, Frank DeFede said: I wanted to thank everyone who responded to my post about upgrading to Windows 11 Pro on an unsupported computer. I ended up using the utility called FlyBy11 at https://github.com/builtbybel/flyby11, It worked great on my HP Z820 Zion machine that i use for music production with Sonar. I had no problems and everything seems to be working fine. On my HP Envy laptop it worked up to at point, but it stopped loading windows 11 at 31%. I tried several time. I am not sure why it gets stuck at 31% every time, but not too concerned about it as it is working great on my desktop, and I may replace the laptop with a new one anyway as I have been having problems with the headphone out, and the screen seems like it is getting dim. Great news, glad it worked for you Frank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted Wednesday at 10:30 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 10:30 PM 5 hours ago, Frank DeFede said: It worked great on my HP Z820 Zion machine that i use for music production with Sonar. I had no problems and everything seems to be working fine. I'm impressed. I don't know if I'd have the courage to try it on an Ivy Bridge system, much less Sandy Bridge. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DeFede Posted Wednesday at 10:37 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 10:37 PM It's easy, really just a few steps. Here's a video that I followed. https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+use+flyby11&client=tablet-android-samsung-rvo1&sca_esv=2388371dc08fac3b&udm=7&biw=812&bih=793&sxsrf=AE3TifP2myosmYL2sqCBGbOnNAUY_nUzsQ%3A1755729333602&ei=tU2maOnDJMWKwbkPo8PAmQg&oq=how+to+use+flyby&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-modeless-video#fpstate=ive&ip=1&vld=cid:9db232e9,vid:R3QaP2X3QoU,st:0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DeFede Posted Wednesday at 11:07 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 11:07 PM There are a lot of videos out there on how to install windows 11 on an incompatible computer that you can view in addition to the one I posted above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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