Olivastro Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Hi, I have a problem that I never had with Cakewalk by Bandlab. I have a mix with several tracks, one of which is vocals. Even if I mute all the tracks, this voice can still be heard: a ghost voice! I used Melodyne on some vocal tracks (there are three, two male and one female) to fix some tonal uncertainties. For the rest, I used plugins for de-essing, reverb... Why can I still hear this voice even when I mute all the tracks? What could be the cause? Is there a bug in the program? Sonar version 2025.8 (Build 004, X64) Tks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Do you have any sends on the muted tracks you can hear? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor55 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 I had a very similar problem a while back. Here's the thread. You may find it useful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivastro Posted August 8 Author Share Posted August 8 So, I read your post, and thank you for at least pointing me in the direction of a solution. However: 1. It was impossible to resolve the issue. 2. Out of desperation, I deleted the sends to the “Voices” bus that I had created for mixing. This made the ghost voice disappear. 3. I recreated the same sends, identical to the ones I had deleted... and now it works! I think it's a program bug... that needs to be fixed so we don't waste hours unnecessarily! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor55 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 David Baay responded to you in the original post where I'd directed to you (A Question About Sends). He said the following: My guess is you had changed the send to Pre-fader and when you deleted/restored it you got a default Post-fader send that is subject to muting. Are you sure about the PRE and POST state of the sends that you deleted and reinstalled? The above sounds like the answer to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timboalogo Posted Sunday at 06:14 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:14 PM On 8/8/2025 at 4:14 AM, Olivastro said: I think it's a program bug... that needs to be fixed so we don't waste hours unnecessarily! I had a similar problem last week. I took screenshots and was just about to post for help and VOILA, it was my fault. Carefully go over the project next time and you'll find that, like me, you are the bug, not the software. Timbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles kasler Posted Sunday at 07:40 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:40 PM i just had a related issue, & i will read the post about sends Sailor55 listed. I have a vocal track with a delay send coming through to the delay bus even with the send turned off. Pre/post has no effect. Probably my error somehow, but how can a send be heard even when it's off? The workaround was just to delete the send. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted Sunday at 08:15 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:15 PM 23 minutes ago, charles kasler said: I have a vocal track with a delay send coming through to the delay bus even with the send turned off. That would have to be a bug if true. I cannot envision any project routing and/or combination of config settings that would allow a bus to continue receiving input from a disabled Send. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles kasler Posted Sunday at 09:32 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:32 PM That's what I think even though most of my issues are user error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Borthwick Posted Tuesday at 10:20 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:20 PM 99% of the time its a routing problem. Please spend the time troubleshooting before assuming any anomaly you encounter is a bug! If you have a project that exhibits routing you cant understand reduce the project to its bare minimum and if it still happens attach the project and someone can look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Borthwick Posted Tuesday at 10:24 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:24 PM On 8/10/2025 at 3:40 PM, charles kasler said: i just had a related issue, & i will read the post about sends Sailor55 listed. I have a vocal track with a delay send coming through to the delay bus even with the send turned off. Pre/post has no effect. Probably my error somehow, but how can a send be heard even when it's off? The workaround was just to delete the send. Attach the project with everything deleted except the track and the bus that receives the input. Check for hidden tracks sending to the bus. If you mute the track in question does the audio go away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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