FREE CAKEWALK SONAR PLUGIN MANAGER LAYOUT PROBLEMS

[Robert Saunders]

Has anyone else noticed that when Clicking on the "New Button" in Plugin Manager that it Depresses but nothing else happens or is this only happening to me as I would like to be able to create a new Layout?

My Chord Bloom Generator when I scanned it in Cakewalk Sonar was categorized as a VST3 Instrument when it should have been categorized as a MIDI Effects (MFX), resulting in it only being able to be applied as Audio Fx when in reality it needs to be applied as MIDI Fx and thus I wanted to create a New Layout for this plugin but I have encountered the "New Button" not functioning.

Any help or suggestions would be most appreciated.

[treesha]

I haven’t used the new button to reply to your question about it, but I'm wondering if this the free chord bloom by pentacom? And are you on windows? If so, I think it is a vst 3 instrument that is used as an instrument on its own not an effect. If this is the one you mean,  after opening it as an instrument, in the gear at the top you can enable midi output and send its output to another instrument.

[Amberwolf]

2 hours ago, Robert Saunders said:

Has anyone else noticed that when Clicking on the "New Button" in Plugin Manager that it Depresses but nothing else happens or is this only happening to me as I would like to be able to create a new Layout?

My Chord Bloom Generator when I scanned it in Cakewalk Sonar was categorized as a VST3 Instrument when it should have been categorized as a MIDI Effects (MFX), resulting in it only being able to be applied as Audio Fx when in reality it needs to be applied as MIDI Fx and thus I wanted to create a New Layout for this plugin but I have encountered the "New Button" not functioning.

A layout is just a way to choose how the plugins in any particular place youc an insert them (fx bins, synthrack, etc0 will be displayed, and which ones, so you could folderize them in various ways, etc.  

It does not change which kinds of plugins can be inserted into which bins--that's determined  by the plugin itself.

EDIT:  see below the stricken-out stuff below for probably better instructions:

Hopefully I'm wrong and this has changed with modern versions of Sonar, but AFAIK you can only insert "MFX" into a midi fx bin, so if the plugin you want to use there does not show up in the plugin manager under the MFX category, it can't be inserted into a midi fx bin, so VST's can't be used directly in midi tracks.  

You can insert a VST that has a midi out into the synthrack as a synth, choosing to enable it's midi out in the process if it isn't already.  Then in the midi track you want to record it's output in, you set the input port to that VST's output.  If youw ant to hear it live you'd have to enable the input monitoring on that track.   

I don't have the plugin youve got there, so I can't give you routing specifics, but you might be able to make it work like this:

go into the plugin's own settings / etc and set the input to come from a speicfic port, as I don't think Sonar outputs MIDI to a VST (unless modern versions now do this).  Use an external midi loopback driver outside Sonar, (like Tobias's loopMidi, etc), and set the midi track(s) to send to that instead of whateve rsynth they're driving, and then set the VST's input to read that port.   Then the VST outputs to it's own port, and that feeds whatever tracks or synths you want it's data to be processed or used by. 

I'ts been a while since I experimented with it, but I think I had to do that with hypercyclic?  Sorry i don't recall all the details anymore.

 

 

EDIT:  Google's Ai thingy  says it's simpler than that:

 

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Add the VST as an instrument:

Open the Synth Rack (Views > Synth Rack or Alt+9).

Click the plus sign to add a new synth.

Select the Chord Bloom Generator from the list of available instruments.

Ensure "Enabled MIDI output" is selected. This creates an Instrument track for the Chord Bloom Generator.

Connect it to a sound-producing instrument:

Add a simple instrument, such as a piano, to hear the sounds generated by the Chord Bloom Generator.

Go to the MIDI track associated with the Chord Bloom Generator and set its output to the MIDI Omni channel of the sound-producing instrument.

Click the "Input Echo" button on the MIDI track.

Utilize and record the generated chords:

The Chord Bloom Generator will now trigger chords in the sound-producing instrument based on its settings.

You can record these chords as MIDI data onto the track and edit them further in the piano roll. 

 

 

Edited Friday at 10:12 PM by Amberwolf

[Robert Saunders]

Yes treesha, it is the Pentacom Chord Bloom and I thank you for the information you have provided along with Amberwolf's very detailed step by step solution which was so very helpful.

Thanks to both of you for giving of your time to respond to me.

[Amberwolf]

l;et us know if those didn't work so we can figure somethng else out