Sonar 2025.08 Feedback

[Promidi]

1 minute ago, dreamcache said:

Ahh, I see what it is. I played around with it more, and the buttons do function correctly, but only after I've opened a project file. I tried adjusting everything and saving a new workspace anyway just to see, but it didn't seem to have any effect when re-opening Cakewalk. So, unfortunately, I'm still not sure this will work for me.

Did you configure your Workspace not to load Windows Layouts?

[dreamcache]

2 hours ago, Promidi said:

Did you configure your Workspace not to load Windows Layouts?

Yup. And to be 100% certain, I just tested it with and without that setting applied. I also tested it with and without the "Apply Workspace on Project Load" toggle applied, but nothing seems to have any influence over the main window on startup. But, at this point, I'm like 90% confident that it's a bug relating to alternative snap positions.

As another test, I just tried full-screening the entire Cakewalk window, closing the program and– tada! It remembered to stay full screen when I reopened it. So, it seems like Cakewalk only struggles to remember its position when you're using a snap position that isn't full screen. In my case, I snap the main window into the left half of my monitor and then drag the console view into its own window to fill the right half of my monitor.

 

EDIT: Oh and semi-related but the Quick Start window doesn't seem to remember its size/position no matter what. That's sorta unrelated but also would be super nice if it did.

Edited Wednesday at 03:25 AM by dreamcache

[Rickddd]

Please view this topic concerning sonar autosave feature:
 

 

[Арсений Гордеев]

I'm playing with the matrix view, and I thought it would be great to be able to record loops in real time, rather than just playing back pre-recorded loops. I'm writing this here with the hope of learning if this feature will be available in future builds

[Barry Seymour]

I'm afraid I have to post an issue, although I'm unsure if this is unique to this release.

I have long passages of MIDI strings, played by hand by me, rather badly. After a lot of fixing, I want to go back and smooth out the MIDI velocity for all the notes. However the click and drag technique is spotty; sometimes it just stops working. Same for Shift+Click+Drag; sometimes it just doesn't work.

Sometimes restarting Sonar fixes it, other times not.

 

 

[57Gregy]

5 hours ago, Арсений Гордеев said:

I'm playing with the matrix view, and I thought it would be great to be able to record loops in real time, rather than just playing back pre-recorded loops. I'm writing this here with the hope of learning if this feature will be available in future builds

Try Loop Recording.

Wait, I'd better check if Cakewalk Sonar has that ability. I can't imagine they would remove it.

[David Baay]

4 hours ago, Barry Seymour said:

I want to go back and smooth out the MIDI velocity for all the notes. However the click and drag technique is spotty

I'm not seeing a problem with dragging either the velocity hotspot on the upper edge of the note in the notes pane or the velocity 'tail' in the controllers pane or Shift+dragging notes around to constrain pitch or time.

I have to think something is going on with your mouse/driver. If you're using a wireless mouse maybe change/charge the battery.

Do you still have CbB installed and it's working normally?

 

[msmcleod]

7 hours ago, David Baay said:

12 hours ago, Barry Seymour said:

I'm afraid I have to post an issue, although I'm unsure if this is unique to this release.

I have long passages of MIDI strings, played by hand by me, rather badly. After a lot of fixing, I want to go back and smooth out the MIDI velocity for all the notes. However the click and drag technique is spotty; sometimes it just stops working. Same for Shift+Click+Drag; sometimes it just doesn't work.

Sometimes restarting Sonar fixes it, other times not.

 

 

I'm not seeing a problem with dragging either the velocity hotspot on the upper edge of the note in the notes pane or the velocity 'tail' in the controllers pane or Shift+dragging notes around to constrain pitch or time.

I have to think something is going on with your mouse/driver. If you're using a wireless mouse maybe change/charge the battery.

Do you still have CbB installed and it's working normally?

 

That would be my conclusion too.

Certainly some custom mouse drivers can cause issues in Sonar - reverting to the standard Microsoft driver usually fixes things.

[Barry Seymour]

3 hours ago, msmcleod said:

That would be my conclusion too.

Certainly some custom mouse drivers can cause issues in Sonar - reverting to the standard Microsoft driver usually fixes things.

Device Manager shows 'HID Compliant Mouse' twice. And restarting Sonar usually (but not always) fixes it.

[Noel Borthwick]

Sonar 2025.08 Update 2 build 31.08.0.033 has been released.

This is an exciting release that coincides with the release of our Cakewalk Core Plugins, a powerful suite of nine essential track effects. You can read more about the plugins and download them if you have BandLab membership.

This update has deep integration with these plugins and several performance optimizations that you can read about in the links above.

To post feedback on the Core Plugins use this thread.

[David Baay]

7 hours ago, Barry Seymour said:

Device Manager shows 'HID Compliant Mouse' twice.

Microsoft Support thread on multiple mouse driver instances causing problems.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/4083226/i-have-multiple-hid-compliant-mouse-drivers-showin

Easiest solution might be too leave them both in place but disable one.

[Robert Glaser]

Just installed Sonar New in build 31.08.0.033 (Update 2)

I can't see or access the Scale pane anymore in keyboard view. The Controller pane is shown here and you can seel that it's set to show velocity. Unfortunately I can't see the keyboard or the Edit Filter.

This is in any file that I open or any screen set I choose. 

How do I revert to the update 1 because I can't work at all with this.

Edited 15 hours ago by Robert Glaser
additional information

[Jorge Tata Arias]

20 minutes ago, Robert Glaser said:

Acabo de instalar Sonar New en la compilación 31.08.0.033 (Actualización 2)

Ya no puedo ver ni acceder al panel Escala en la vista de teclado. El panel Controlador se muestra aquí y se puede ver que está configurado para mostrar la velocidad. Lamentablemente, no puedo ver el teclado ni el Filtro de Edición.

Esto está en cualquier archivo que abro o en cualquier conjunto de pantallas que elija. 

¿Cómo puedo volver a la actualización 1 porque no puedo trabajar en absoluto con esto?

[Robert Glaser]

There's no "grabber" in mine. The only grabber shown in the last picture expands the clip properties, not the scale pane. In the attached, you'll notice there's nothing to grab.

[user905133]

16 minutes ago, Robert Glaser said:

There's no "grabber" in mine.

Isn't that the grabber, a bit higher up in the 1st screen shot?

[Promidi]

2 minutes ago, user905133 said:

Isn't that the grabber, a bit higher up in the 1st screen shot?

I think that is for the Inspector.  

@Robert GlaserWhat happens if you undock the PRV?

[user905133]

2 minutes ago, Promidi said:

I think that is for the Inspector.  

I believe you are right.  I was just looking at that.

[Robert Glaser]

Yes, that's why I posted the second shot. Besides the grabber for the scale pane would be centered next to the pane and not include the track pane above it.

Also undocking the PRV didn't help. The scale pane and/or the grabber for it aren't there

Is there a way to access/download the previous build from July 31?

Edited 14 hours ago by Robert Glaser
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[Barry Seymour]

1 hour ago, David Baay said:

Microsoft Support thread on multiple mouse driver instances causing problems.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/4083226/i-have-multiple-hid-compliant-mouse-drivers-showin

Easiest solution might be too leave them both in place but disable one.

This could be relevant. I have two mice I use on my PC, the same model, one uses the dongle plugged into the PC and the other uses a dongle plugged into my external keyboard. Will research, thanks.

[David Baay]

20 minutes ago, Robert Glaser said:

Besides the grabber for the scale pane would be centered next to the pane and not include the track pane above it.

There's never been a 'grab-handle' for the scale pane; you just need to hover at the left edge of the PRV notes pane until you see the double-arrow cursor, then click and drag.