Recording MIDI CC events on separate tracks or take lanes, possible?

[Billy86]

Hi all. I’m working in Sonar with a Kontakt instrument, set up as a “simple instrument,” so no separate Midi track routed to the instrument; all the data is on one track. I have the performance recorded. Next, I’m using sound-on-sound recording to record CC info from my controller’s mod wheel to manipulate the performance.

I’ve tried selecting “record to separate take lanes” in the record setup, thinking Sonar would create a separate lane for the CC data. But it’s putting everything on top of my performance. It records fine, but the result is what looks like a big blank block on top of what I could previously see as Midi notes. I can see the CC info in PRV. I have more CC data to add, and I’d like organize things on their take lanes, and then tuck everything into a folder. Is it possible in “simple instrument” mode to record to separate lanes, or do I have the set things up different with the instrument to do this? Thanks.

[Bristol_Jonesey]

You might get more joy if you'd set it up as split audio/midi, rather than an Instrument Track

[User 905133]

I think another option might be to add some MIDI Tracks and route them to the Instrument, if Kontakt can handle that. (I don't use Kontakt, but I have used CC Data "control tracks" for after-the-fact overdub recording.)  

[John Vere]

I do this often. I use an instrument track for the notes.I insert a midi track. Set the output to the instrument track and then record my joystick stuff. That way I don’t have to think about it when recording the music.. but once I’m happy I drag the midi data to the instrument track. 

[David Baay]

You can do  this with lanes of an Instrument track but when lanes are not showing, Sonar stacks the clips in the parent track rather than merging their content, and the order in which clips are stacked (i.e. what's on top) can be unpredictable/uncontrollable. When using MIDI lanes, I generally leave the lanes showing so it's clear what's in each lane, and what's soloed/muted. I have previously requested that Sonar visually merge MIDI clips in lanes (and scale them all the same) when lanes are not showing.

[Billy86]

7 hours ago, Bristol_Jonesey said:

You might get more joy if you'd set it up as split audio/midi, rather than an Instrument Track

No doubt there’s more flexibility with stuff like this. Using the simple instrument route is a hard habit to break from way back. Getting down more rabbit holes with everything Midi can do these days; I need to break that old habit.

[Billy86]

2 hours ago, David Baay said:

You can do  this with lanes of an Instrument track but when lanes are not showing, Sonar stacks the clips in the parent track rather than merging their content, and the order in which clips are stacked (i.e. what's on top) can be unpredictable/uncontrollable. When using MIDI lanes, I generally leave the lanes showing so it's clear what's in each lane, and what's soloed/muted. I have previously requested that Sonar visually merge MIDI clips in lanes (and scale them all the same) when lanes are not showing.

Well, that’s a litttle idiosyncrasy, eh? Thanks for pointing this out.