Is this possible ?

[Mr No Name]

So, I have a recorded drum break (in audio), I covert audio to midi, I then want to use an external drum machine to change the different parts of the kit (same rhythm/break) but with different hits.

 

I think the main problem is splitting the midi drum kit into it's constituent parts before swapping them on the drum machine.

I obviously would like to do this in the fastest most simple way possible.

 

any ideas?  thanks.

[Promidi]

Open up the converted MIDI in the PRV and then transpose the required notes to match those that trigger the drum machine hit you are after.

[mettelus]

13 hours ago, Mr No Name said:

I think the main problem is splitting the midi drum kit into it's constituent parts before swapping them on the drum machine.

The quickest way to split apart an assembled MIDI drum track is to select each piece by clicking the MIDI note on the left edge of the PRV. Once selected, you can shift-drag those to the appropriate drum machine track. If you can feed the drum machine the assembled track, the same selection technique helps with moving MIDI notes to the proper row; select them all on the left, then drag them to where they need to be.

Edited Friday at 09:03 AM by mettelus

[Mr No Name]

thanks for the tips, I will try that out.

what I was hoping to do was have the midi information and the drum module automatically know which parts of the kit go where.

I 'm thinking that is a bit much to ask and I will have to assign channels to each midi hit.

maybe if I split the audio in a a sampler first, then convert the separate hits to midi.

my first test will be to dissasemble an Amen break and reassemble it using a roland 909 kit ?

I wonder what it will sound like?

[Glenn Stanton]

also for basic stuff, the drum replacer could also be an option - detect the instruments (at least the snare and bass) 

[mettelus]

5 hours ago, Mr No Name said:

maybe if I split the audio in a a sampler first, then convert the separate hits to midi.

This may be simpler, and you don't need to separate the track (slightly different approach here), but would need multiple copies (one for each piece you want to break out). Since you will be feeding transients into the drum machine, they don't need to sound good, but be accurately timed (for the trigger). Example... if you run a narrow/high Q EQ on a copy of the audio drums to isolate the snare hits, you can bounce that and do the audio-to-MIDI conversion to get only the snare. Repeat for the other pieces you want to use. You can even save that as a track template to do this and then would only need to copy the audio and tweak each piece's EQ frequency once you get the EQ initially set up.

[Mr No Name]

22 hours ago, mettelus said:

This may be simpler, and you don't need to separate the track (slightly different approach here), but would need multiple copies (one for each piece you want to break out). Since you will be feeding transients into the drum machine, they don't need to sound good, but be accurately timed (for the trigger). Example... if you run a narrow/high Q EQ on a copy of the audio drums to isolate the snare hits, you can bounce that and do the audio-to-MIDI conversion to get only the snare. Repeat for the other pieces you want to use. You can even save that as a track template to do this and then would only need to copy the audio and tweak each piece's EQ frequency once you get the EQ initially set up.

That was the way to go, found a program that separated the drum break by transients,(like a traditional sampler) and it automatically converted it to midi.  works like a charm, happy days.

it's pretty tight on the conversion, some vsti's are a bit sloppy, 

lot of potential. 👍

[Amberwolf]

8 hours ago, Mr No Name said:

, found a program that separated the drum break by transients,(l

Which program?   (I have a lot of stuff I'd like to do that to, and my present manual method is rather tedious and very time-consuming). 

[Mr No Name]

3 hours ago, Amberwolf said:

Which program?   (I have a lot of stuff I'd like to do that to, and my present manual method is rather tedious and very time-consuming). 

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