Audio Snap transient detection not as good as hoped

[dougalex]

Spent a lot of time on trying to quantize a live played drum beat but Audio Snap transient detection is too often not really close enough to the transient.

And sometimes the stretch is resulting in something sounding too crazy to really know how to get it adjusted. Trial and error trying to adjust the transients to fix those spots just makes it worse. 
My problems might be "user error".... so
Maybe someone has some tips and tricks on Audio Snap? Or "common mistakes" list. 

Edited 20 hours ago by dougalex

[tecknot]

Hi dougalex,

Have you tried messing around with the Filter Threshold in the Audio Snap Palette?

 

Kind regards,

tecknot

[mettelus]

There are numerous posts in the forums with the same question over the years, and I only reember one that had detailed usage outlined (was very well done), but I cannot readily find it or remember who posted it... but is also probably 10 years old. Barring that (potentially futile) search, there have been quite a few tutorials posted, and the newer ones will include new features and bug fixes that have been done (this can be important). A tutorial from 2022 that seems to have a fairly detailed walkthrough for 2 methods is at this link, but there are many others... tutorials are probably the best path to start on. Audio Snap tends to fall into the category of either you love it or you hate it; rarely is there middle ground.

Also, depending on which version of Melodyne you are using (this requires Melodyne Studio) there are methods to quantize live drums there (this is a good starting tutorial for using Melodyne Studio for live drums - any tutorial by Rich Crescenti is usually the best go to for Melodyne-related things). Personally, I have shied away from Audio Snap due to past struggles, and I much prefer something "third party" so I can get the work done regardless of DAW (as long as it has ARA capability).

[reginaldStjohn]

It takes some time but after doing the autmatic detection manually move the ones that are not to your liking.

[dougalex]

My next experiment will be:
I will record a second track of me tapping along to the playback 4/4 downbeats using something like a sidestick sample. Then try the transfer that track to the transient pool, and copy that to the target track.

If works well, then would take a lot less time than adding, disabling, moving transients that were detected from the actual source material. 

[dougalex]

4 hours ago, tecknot said:

Have you tried messing around with the Filter Threshold in the Audio Snap Palette?

Yes, that, and making sure average tempo, and resolution are set.

[Will.]

15 hours ago, dougalex said:

Spent a lot of time on trying to quantize a live played drum beat but Audio Snap transient detection is too often not really close enough to the transient.

And sometimes the stretch is resulting in something sounding too crazy to really know how to get it adjusted. Trial and error trying to adjust the transients to fix those spots just makes it worse. 
My problems might be "user error".... so
Maybe someone has some tips and tricks on Audio Snap? Or "common mistakes" list. 

It work best when chopped up in smaller clips and moved to individual tracks. When you're satisfied with the outcome - you can always move them to one track and bounce them together. 

First make a copy - work on that and hide the original track. 

[Mark Morgon-Shaw]

Melodyne is a much better tool for the job.