Cakewalk Sonar V-Studio 100

[Frank DeFede]

Does anyone still use or have experience with the old Cakewalk Sonar V-Studio 100 that came out in 2009?  I had to dig it out of the my old equipment cabinet and use it to finish a mix because my Presonus Studio 24C stopped working just as I was getting ready to do the final mix of a song I had been working on for weeks. I tried everything to get the Presonus 24C to work with no resolve.

So with a few adjustments In Cakewalk by Bandlab the Cakewalk Sonar V-Studio 100 worked and I was happy to do the final mixing of a song that is now ready to be exported. I was even able to control the Cakewalk by Bandlab software with Cakewalk Sonar V-Studio 100 with the built in control buttons, and even was able to use the MIDI channels to control my Mackie Control surface as well.  The Cakewalk Sonar V-Studio 100 really sounded good to my ears and I thought perhaps I should just keep using this older 2009 piece of equipment even though it has a lower sample rate of 96KHZ while the Presonus Studio 24C is 24-bit/192KHZ.

Knowing I will get a better sample rate on the Presonus Studio 24C I decided to disconnect the V-studio 100 to try again to get the Presonus 24C working for the export with no avail.

I connected the Cakewalk Sonar V-studio 100 back up to do the exporting of the tracks, but now none of the control buttons on the unit are working. The control buttons go out when I connect the USB 2 two the computer. The audio is working fine when pluged into the USB 2, but I have lost the control surface of the Cakewalk Sonar V-Studio 100.  I believe I connected everything back up to same as I had the Cakewalk Sonar V-Studio 100 working before. When I unplug the  USB the lights come on, but when I plug the USB back in they go out. 

Can anyone give me some advice on this.  I am so made at myself right now for disconnecting Cakewalk Sonar V-Studio 100 while is was working. I should have left good enough alone and just kept using the Cakewalk Sonar V-Studio 100.

Perhaps it is some setting on the unit itself, but I have been through everything on it. It seems odd that when I connect the USB the control lights go out on the control surface, but the audio works, and when I disconnect the USB the Control button lights come back on.

Thank you for reading this long post. Any suggestions are most welcome!

 

 

[JonD]

 

If it were me. I'd reinstall the v-Studio software  (With the V-Studio 100 disconnected, install the latest Windows driver/software for it. Reboot your system.  Connect the V-Studio 100 and then power it on).

On a side note, I'm confused by this comment:  

"... perhaps I should just keep using this older 2009 piece of equipment even though it has a lower sample rate of 96KHZ while the Presonus Studio 24C is 24-bit/192KHZ."

Are you saying that you record at 192KHZ?  If not, the top sample rate of 192khz is entirely irrelevant.  If you are, then I have to ask.... WHY?

[Frank DeFede]

Thank you Jon,

I will give that a try. I guess I can get the software from the Sonar V-studio 100 product page? Should I uninstall the device first?

I assumed the Personus studio 24C that I used to record the tracks automatically recorded at 192KHZ, but the v-studio 100 only at 96KHZ.  I didn’t know I could even change the sample rate.

Thank you for your input.  I will try to go Head and reinstall the software as you suggested and let you knoe how it goes.

Frank

[Frank DeFede]

Hi Jon,

Here's a quick overview of what I have tried.  I uninstalled the V-studio 100. I went to the V-studio 100 webpage, and got the manual, but the driver is not available to download.  It said that it will install when you plug in the V-studio 100.  It came right on line and and the audio is working fine as before,  but I still can't get the transport section working.

Before I did the above I thought I'd try the same thing with my Presonus 24C and give it a try one more time using your suggestion to remove it and then reinstall it.  I also deleted the Universal control software, and downloaded it from Presonus, and installed without the the presonus 24C connected.  The computer recognized the Presonus 24C. I followed the manual on how to set it up. I click on the Universal Control Icon, and it came up, but looks a little different than what the manual was showing.  I set the buffers etc. which I now had access too. as I didn't before.  I thought it was going to work, but I am still getting the break ups and noise with all of the settings.  So the audio is grabbled, and the MIDI in and OUT are not controlling my Mackie control. However, it plays a was file of a song just fine.

So that is when I tried the Sonar V-studio 100 as explained above. I have new Presonus 24C being delivered from Amazon here tomorrow. I will try it as soon as I get my hands on it, and If it works then I guess that means that the one I am using does have a problem.

Since the audio on the V-studio sounds fine, If I could get the V-studio 100 where I can use the transport, and MIDI I would like to use it and send back the new Presonus 24C.  I think I have an idea of why of what is gong on with it.  I read a lot of the manual. It says . . . If you connect SONAR V-STUDIO 100 to a computer and turn the power on, the section within the bounding rectangle in this illustration functions as the control surface for SONAR VS.

https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/VS-100_r_e2.pdf

It's on page 19.

But, when I do this it works the exact opposite and the red light goes out and in the display above it says USB arm now online. But, the DAW light goes out. I tried a different USB cable too, but I still have the problem.

Thank you for listening to all of this.  Any help you can provide or suggests is much appreciated. I will let you know if the new Presonus I get tomorrow works. If it doesn't I am not sure what to do next. I guess I could try Presonus Studio 1 software, but I really don't want to deal with changing from Cakewalk that I have used almost from the beginning.

It's much appreciated!

Frank

 

[JonD]

Hi Frank,

The only other thing I can think of to try is to connect to a different USB port.  The V-studio 100  is a USB2 device.  If your PC is less than say, a decade old, it's probably got only (or mostly) USB3 ports.  USB3 are supposed to be backwards-compatible, but not all USB3 controllers are made equal.  Consequently, some handle USB2 just fine, while others are glitchy or flat out don't work (with USB2). 

if you've been trying to connect to the same USB port all along and there's a software corruption, it won't clear until you clean up the corrupted code -- which I don't recommend if you're not comfortable with going into the registry, etc.

A workaround is to just try a different USB port.  Best to connect to a USB2 port if you have any.  On older PCs ,USB2 ports were designated in black while USB3 in blue.  This is not so much the case anymore.  If you can't locate any USB2 ports, then just try  different USB3 ports.

Good luck.