Bruce Gombrelli Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) It's driving me nuts. I'm on Windows 11 and it randomly (thankfully about ever 5 minutes or so) seems to SCAN something. I have VST scans set to manual and make sure there's no directories in it with other files. No rhyme or reason. I just see the rectangular dialog that with a bunch of files that flash by and then it disappears, usually I get audio dropout. It scan for about 2 seconds. Anything thoughts here!! (remember vst scans are off) - I have a super fast computer with tons of space and solid state drives. Windows doing some wierd scanning?? I beg of you! Edited March 28 by Bruce Gombrelli Add more info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurre Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 There's other software that scans after Vst's. Audacity is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 @Bruce Gombrelli what does the event viewer say? What plugins do you have running, check they are not scanning for updates. To the best of my knowledge there is only one aspect of Cakewalk that can cause a scan. On startup if VSTScaning is enabled, yes I note you say it is disabled. If you have scan in the background enabled and you install a new or update any plugins whilst Cakewalk is running. Do you have the VST scan log enabled, if so you should be able to check the time stamps to see if it has run. One last thought do you have auto save enabled? If so you might want to check what rules you have set for that. i.e. how often and/or how many changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Gombrelli Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 1. VST scan set to manual 2. Autosave is set to 60 minutes, that's not it. It is possible that one of the plug-ins is scanning for authorization or updates all the time. Hummm.. However, it seems persistent even on small projects but I DO have a project template I make so it might be one of those. Default Project has Native Instruments, Toon Track, and Trillian. This didn't happen on my Window 10 box I retired because of the threat of non support from Microsoft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 @Bruce Gombrelli does it happen in one of the default supplied templates? If not it implies the issue lies i your custom template. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Gombrelli Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 I'll investigate that. It's really not a "template" per say, it's a project that I just reuse, but its' been around a while with minor updates. It's called Recording Template by name. I use it because it's got all the busses and inputs with some default plug-ins. Worth a shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurre Posted Saturday at 06:07 AM Share Posted Saturday at 06:07 AM On 3/28/2025 at 3:54 AM, Bruce Gombrelli said: I just see the rectangular dialog that with a bunch of files that flash by and then it disappears, usually I get audio dropout. It scan for about 2 seconds. Are you absolutely sure that dialog is from the daw? Can it be from the windows system? You really need to identify the names of the files that flash by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Gombrelli Posted Saturday at 01:04 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 01:04 PM It's so fast I can't see it, meaning the names flash by in a few seconds really fast. It kind of looks like a plug-in loading but the lengths seems too short, so it could be from windows. I would NOT be surprised if it's from windows. I've got all notifications turned off and update is manual, However, I know Windows tends to run things like Anti-virus in the background by looking at task manager. (defender). I could turn off access to the internet but that might affect the plug-ins - But then I could turn off the anti-virus stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoo Posted Saturday at 02:08 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:08 PM Is it in the bottom right of the main screen, blue background? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted Saturday at 05:54 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:54 PM 4 hours ago, Bruce Gombrelli said: I could turn off access to the internet but that might affect the plug-ins - But then I could turn off the anti-virus stuff. Turn it all off. If your plugins are properly registered this will not cause a problem. The only time my daw goes online is for updates & software downloads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57Gregy Posted Saturday at 10:02 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:02 PM 8 hours ago, Bruce Gombrelli said: It's so fast I can't see it, meaning the names flash by in a few seconds really fast. It kind of looks like a plug-in loading but the lengths seems too short, so it could be from windows. I would NOT be surprised if it's from windows. I've got all notifications turned off and update is manual, However, I know Windows tends to run things like Anti-virus in the background by looking at task manager. (defender). I could turn off access to the internet but that might affect the plug-ins - But then I could turn off the anti-virus stuff. I would use my phone (or other camera) to film (😉) the messages then play it back slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Gombrelli Posted Monday at 03:15 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 03:15 AM Possible solution in the testing phase. It's windows search and Indexing. I removed all of my vst and cakewalk related folders, it still did it, but it was FAST and didn't cause and audio dropout. I added more folders to exclude and ran it tonight and saw the window twice but it didn't affect my work and cause a drop out, and was a very brief popup. I now set the search to manual (the service) and stopped it, I'm looking for it to completely stop (fingers crossed), I'll let you know. This is a BIG deal. I think a "folder" change (like maybe a changed temp file or whatever, is firing off an index). But wow, I can't believe such a fix wouldn't be all over the internet for Cakewalk users, I can't be the only person that has run into this. BUT maybe it might be because of WHERE I put my projects, I like to manage them on my desk under special folders (new projects, completed works, etc) so I excluded my entire C;\users\<me> directory from the search because it wouldn't let me drill into any desktop folders and exclude them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgoRr Posted Monday at 04:34 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:34 AM 1 hour ago, Bruce Gombrelli said: I like to manage them on my desk under special folders Try to create a new empty folder for projects on any other disk, check all the details of this folder: "Read only; hidden; locked", remove all this, then create a shortcut for this folder and place it on the desktop. Then create a new empty project in Sonar (you can open the factory template), and save it to this folder. Close Sonar, and try to run this saved project again, if there is no scanning, then it is better to work with projects in this format. And in general, storing projects on the desktop is far from the best idea, in case of any problems with the system (virus, crash, startup failure, etc.), all your projects will simply disappear, because the desktop - is physically a system disk. You can, of course, make copies, but then why duplicate everything if you can initially store projects on another disk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Gombrelli Posted Monday at 01:22 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 01:22 PM I store things very temporarily on the desktop, I use my other solid state disk D to run projects when they are closer to done and I back up often. Managing projects is always a challenge to ensure a back state. I've had backups fail in the past so I usually have multiple backups at any given time. I might change to do all work in drive D for reasons you suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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