Cobus Prinsloo Posted Tuesday at 10:57 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:57 AM Hi all. I'm using Fruity Loops' Sytrus 3 vst synth and it has a lot of great sound presets. However, several of them always cause Sonar to crash as soon as I start playing (even if it's only one note). The crash note always states an "Access violation" (see screenshot). I installed and tested this on another PC of mine with Cakewalk on, and there was no problem! In terms of specs and performance, this PC is not any better either. I changed the oversampling settings inside Sytus, but that didn't seem to make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. Posted Tuesday at 12:12 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:12 PM 1 hour ago, Cobus Prinsloo said: Hi all. I'm using Fruity Loops' Sytrus 3 vst synth and it has a lot of great sound presets. However, several of them always cause Sonar to crash as soon as I start playing (even if it's only one note). The crash note always states an "Access violation" (see screenshot). I installed and tested this on another PC of mine with Cakewalk on, and there was no problem! In terms of specs and performance, this PC is not any better either. I changed the oversampling settings inside Sytus, but that didn't seem to make a difference. If you are using the VST3 version - report it to AirMusic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobus Prinsloo Posted Tuesday at 12:22 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 12:22 PM 7 minutes ago, Will. said: If you are using the VST3 version - report it to AirMusic Unfortunately it looks like there's only a VST 2 version. I checked it with an FL Studio staff member. Pity, this is such a great synth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. Posted Tuesday at 12:25 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:25 PM (edited) On 3/25/2025 at 2:22 PM, Cobus Prinsloo said: Unfortunately it looks like there's only a VST 2 version. I checked it with an FL Studio staff member. Pity, this is such a great synth. Are you using "Sytrus" or The Riser. Your crash has an issue with "The Riser" which is an AirMusic product and Sytrus a FL strictly product. Attach the mini dumb file here, for further assistance from Cakewalk developers. Edited 21 hours ago by Will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwalpwal Posted Tuesday at 12:33 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:33 PM 8 minutes ago, Will. said: Are you're using "Sytrus" or The Riser. Your crash has an issue with "The Riser" how can you tell from his post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. Posted Tuesday at 12:35 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:35 PM Just now, pwalpwal said: how can you tell from his post? Sytrus is native to FL STUDIO - period. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted Tuesday at 01:08 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:08 PM 33 minutes ago, pwalpwal said: how can you tell from his post? "The Riser" is named in the link to the Dump file. @Cobus Prinsloo what size buffers, you could try increasing them one step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwalpwal Posted Tuesday at 01:13 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:13 PM 5 minutes ago, Wookiee said: "The Riser" is named in the link to the Dump file. missed that link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwalpwal Posted Tuesday at 01:15 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:15 PM (edited) 1 minute ago, pwalpwal said: missed that link ah i see it's in the filepath in the screenshot, took that as the song name on scan Edited Tuesday at 01:18 PM by pwalpwal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. Posted Tuesday at 01:18 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:18 PM Just now, pwalpwal said: ah i see it's in the filepath in the screenshot Yes. Ski-pidi-papap-aah-do. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwalpwal Posted Tuesday at 01:22 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:22 PM 2 minutes ago, Will. said: Yes. Ski-pidi-papap-aah-do. 😂 so if it's detected as a plugin crash, it uses the plugin name in the dump, rather than the song name? is that new or am i not keeping up 🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. Posted Tuesday at 01:30 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:30 PM Just now, pwalpwal said: so if it's detected as a plugin crash, it uses the plugin name in the dump, rather than the song name? is that new or am i not keeping up 🤪 Most software does. Some just highlight them in more detail, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobus Prinsloo Posted Wednesday at 01:11 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 01:11 AM 12 hours ago, Will. said: Your crash has an issue with "The Riser" Well -- what do you know! I'm using Sytrus, but The Riser is the only other plugin in this product. Thank you very much. So I should send the mini dump file to AirMusic then? I should mention that I've used the Riser with many other synth plugins in other projects without issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobus Prinsloo Posted Wednesday at 01:13 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 01:13 AM 12 hours ago, Wookiee said: what size buffers, you could try increasing them one step. The buffer size was 192, but I brought it down to 64. My understanding is that a smaller size works better for realtime playback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. Posted Wednesday at 03:52 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:52 AM 2 hours ago, Cobus Prinsloo said: Thank you very much. So I should send the mini dump file to AirMusic then? Correct'o. Tell them its causing Cakewalk to crash. Are you using the vst 2 or their new vst 3 version of The Riser? Then second question: Are you using Sytrus as rewired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobus Prinsloo Posted Wednesday at 06:19 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 06:19 AM 2 hours ago, Will. said: Are you using the vst 2 or their new vst 3 version of The Riser? No, I have the vst 2 version. That's good news -- I'll see if I can install the vst 3 if it makes a difference. Regarding your 2nd question: not sure what you mean by "rewired."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwalpwal Posted Wednesday at 03:43 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:43 PM 11 hours ago, Will. said: Then second question: Are you using Sytrus as rewired? there is a vsti port according to https://www.image-line.com/fl-studio-learning/fl-studio-online-manual/html/plugins/Sytrus.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. Posted Wednesday at 04:03 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:03 PM (edited) 56 minutes ago, pwalpwal said: there is a vsti port according to https://www.image-line.com/fl-studio-learning/fl-studio-online-manual/html/plugins/Sytrus.htm Yes, thats because Sytrus does not come with every version of FL Studio. FL recently launched their effect store where you can buy their plugins indivually, but they are strictly native to FL Studio - ONLY! I do have Sytrus. I own FL Studio and none of their native or addon and even their new plugins from their store has ever worked in Cakewalk or any other DAW. Edited Wednesday at 04:41 PM by Will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwalpwal Posted Wednesday at 04:14 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:14 PM no wonder op is having issues (but why bother with port?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. Posted Wednesday at 04:46 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:46 PM 26 minutes ago, pwalpwal said: no wonder op is having issues (but why bother with port?) 🙆🏽♂️🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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