Sonar 2025.02 Feedback

[Wookiee]

2 minutes ago, IgoRr said:

Yes, I have already updated the C++ libraries several times directly from the source using the bakers' link in the Sonar discussion. I updated these sets before using DaVinci for the first time (I have a portable version), and after using it, after installing Adobe Acrobat, after reinstalling Sonar, etc., I am sure that this can be excluded from the reasons. And regarding sending the project file - I can send an empty project (template), in which I have everything exactly the same as on the GIF, does this make sense?

Sending an empty template is meaningless, whilst it may contain some information the additional data from recordings may, help. It is your choice, I am just trying to get you some help, if you don't want to follow my suggestions that is your decision. 

[IgoRr]

5 minutes ago, Wookiee said:

I am just trying to get you some help

I am grateful to you for your help, but I already said - in any (!) project, the same thing happens to me - the buttons in ProChannel are not displayed as enabled, it does not depend on the number of tracks, or the number of instruments or processing. I can send any project, but I just thought - if everything is exactly the same in an empty project, is it easier to send an empty one? That's why I asked you - does it make sense?

[David Baay]

@p-w-m, @Neil Scott, @Aaron Doss and others experiencing UI reponse/lagging issues. I'm wondering if this might be fallout from the experimental 'Enabe GPU Acceleration' option in Preference s> Customization Display.

I suggest you try disabling it.

Edited March 3 by David Baay

[IgoRr]

5 minutes ago, David Baay said:

I suggest you try disabling it.

I've never had such bugs, but there are a couple of unexplained bugs with the absence of text (name of modules) in the menu for adding modules in ProChannel, and in the pop-up hint field near the cursor on the "automatisms" line, I already wrote about these bugs here. But all the other functionality in Sonar/Cakewalk works completely normally and reliably, and in the latest build, this strange thing appeared. I checked the setting you specified - I had this option disabled, I tried to enable it, checked - the same thing, then disabled it again - nothing changed again.
Do I understand correctly that most users do not have this (as in my GIF) in the latest version of Sonar?

[David Baay]

7 minutes ago, IgoRr said:

Do I understand correctly that most users do not have this (as in my GIF) in the latest version of Sonar?

Prochannel buttons show up enabled in the Console View as expected here.

[IgoRr]

2 minutes ago, David Baay said:

Prochannel buttons show up enabled in the Console View

Then it's really strange... I could assume that the reason for such anomalies could be that I don't have a discrete graphics card, but in the previous version of Sonar, this didn't happen, although absolutely everything remained the same - the system, monitor settings, drivers, plugins, etc. I am becoming increasingly convinced that the new iteration of Sonar is extremely sensitive to any (!) system elements, drivers, and third-party programs installed in the system, which seems very counterproductive to me. Or I can only think that this all happens because of working in Windows 10, and most have already switched to Windows 11, where such anomalies do not occur, no other logical conclusions can be drawn.

[David Baay]

1 hour ago, IgoRr said:

I could assume that the reason for such anomalies could be that I don't have a discrete graphics card

Not sure what you have going on, but everything's good here on both my Win 11 laptop with onboard Intel graphics and my Win10 desktop with Nvidia. Are you sure it's not project-specific and maybe plugin-related?

[IgoRr]

23 minutes ago, David Baay said:

Are you sure it's not project-specific and maybe plugin-related?

I don't know how else to explain that in a completely empty clean project without a single plugin or instrument, when opening the mixer, the "ON" buttons on ProChannel are not displayed as enabled. I specifically created an empty clean project without any instruments or plugins in the "VSTi" rack, in which the same thing happens. This is the same for a project with a single MIDI track, with 10 MIDI tracks, with 1 or 10 audio tracks, and with combined MIDI and audio tracks. The same thing happens in all other projects, and when activating the "FX" and "PDC" buttons, which completely excludes a software or hardware connection for this phenomenon.
I'll just repeat once again: in the previous version of Sonar, under the same conditions, with the same system elements, programs, drivers and everything else, the buttons on ProChannel were displayed completely normally.

[pwalpwal]

15 hours ago, David Baay said:

@p-w-m, @Neil Scott, @Aaron Doss and others experiencing UI reponse/lagging issues. I'm wondering if this might be fallout from the experimental 'Enabe GPU Acceleration' option in Preference s> Customization Display.

I suggest you try disabling it.

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[Jonathan Sasor]

Please note that 2025.02 Update 1 (build 31.02.0.074) is now available. Thanks!

[IgoRr]

1 hour ago, Jonathan Sasor said:

Please note that 2025.02 Update 1 (build 31.02.0.074) is now available.

Today is one of the happiest dates in recent years - with the release of this update, I can fully work in my favorite DAW, which I rightfully considered and consider the best workstation of all existing ones!
I don't know exactly who to thank, but I want to express my endless gratitude to those developers who took into account my comments regarding graphic bugs in ProChannel and some other sections, HUGE THANKS to the entire Cakewalk team!     🙏

[AB9]

1 hour ago, IgoRr said:

Today is one of the happiest dates in recent years - with the release of this update, I can fully work in my favorite DAW, which I rightfully considered and consider the best workstation of all existing ones!
I don't know exactly who to thank, but I want to express my endless gratitude to those developers who took into account my comments regarding graphic bugs in ProChannel and some other sections, HUGE THANKS to the entire Cakewalk team!     🙏

That is great news!  And they did it so fast!

[Archerdrummer]

A big "Thank You" to the bakers for being so proactive and attentive in resolving these issues as quickly as possible! 

 

[John Vere]

The developers are very cooperative and if you have any issues you should contact them directly. 
I find they get back to me quickly and usually ask for more information or screenshots and stuff. 
I think it is still a priority for them to make sure Sonar has zero issues. They most certainly have taken my problems seriously. 
 

But it’s difficult when you are the one in a million that has the problem to solve it. 
 

Example put your hand up if you’re having crashes on opening and find out those projects on loading show “untitled EQ” untitled CA2A “ etc Once open any audio tracks that had pro channel module active the pro channel is totally blank included no EQ which is actually impossible. 
See - no one else right? But they are taking it seriously and hopefully together we can figure out why this is happening and only on certain projects that are made before a certain time. 
 

But before you share your issues here please submit a report to the support team. This is of benefit to everyone who loves this Daw. 

[Salvatore Sorice]

Welcome back @John Vere! I thought you had left the forum. 

[T Boog]

1 hour ago, Salvatore Sorice said:

Welcome back @John Vere! I thought you had left the forum. 

The name "John Vere"  is just an illusion

That post was left simply to cause confusion 

See, John once was but now he's dead

His old 12 string lies upon his bed

Yet, he was my friend til the bitter end... 

When that furry monster did him in

Now John's moved on to bluer skies

But wipe that teardrop from ur eyes

Cause John's as fine as vintage wine

Now he's beta testing God's designs

So do not fear and do not quake sir

You'll see John again when u meet ur maker

Until that day be still my friend

Lest u jump at shadows of John Vere again

It's just his ghost, now dont u see?

He has no more advice for you or me

Yet, legend has it, when the moon is right...

If u listen close on a winter's night

You'll still hear John, that dear old nut

Screaming, "Hey Bandlab, KISS MY BUTT!!!"

 

  "The Ghost of John Vere"

                       by T-Boog 😜

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 6 by T Boog

[Mauro Gaspa]

I installed the latest patch update just today but, as I previously reported, the problem persists. Every animation and command on the screen freezes graphically even with this latest update. The behavior remains the same: every program function and animation freezes graphically, but the audio continues to play as if the software hadn't actually frozen. In fact, the processSonar.exedoes not appear to be blocked, but in reality, Cakewalk is, and I cannot control any function. Additionally, after a while, it encounters an error and generates the usual DMP file. 

I also tried creating a new project with Spectrasonics Keyscape and a loaded piano sound, and I have the same behavior. I want to clarify that in the other projects, I didn't even use Keyscape, and before the February update, Cakewalk worked wonderfully.

"I am sharing again the DMP file of one of my projects generated today, March 6th, 2025.

https://1drv.ms/f/c/05665151b61353c4/EsRTE7ZRUWYggAW3lQUAAAABi-TsVVMBy1ssf_uBBOLG1w?e=gfTOac

[Wookiee]

1 hour ago, Mauro Gaspa said:

I installed the latest patch update just today but, as I previously reported, the problem persists. Every animation and command on the screen freezes graphically even with this latest update. The behavior remains the same: every program function and animation freezes graphically, but the audio continues to play as if the software hadn't actually frozen. In fact, the processSonar.exedoes not appear to be blocked, but in reality, Cakewalk is, and I cannot control any function. Additionally, after a while, it encounters an error and generates the usual DMP file. 

I also tried creating a new project with Spectrasonics Keyscape and a loaded piano sound, and I have the same behavior. I want to clarify that in the other projects, I didn't even use Keyscape, and before the February update, Cakewalk worked wonderfully.

"I am sharing again the DMP file of one of my projects generated today, March 6th, 2025.

https://1drv.ms/f/c/05665151b61353c4/EsRTE7ZRUWYggAW3lQUAAAABi-TsVVMBy1ssf_uBBOLG1w?e=gfTOac

You need to report this properly to support@cakewalk.com with a sample project and full specification of you PC. Reporting it here can't guarantee support will see it quickly. 

[Michael Crepps]

ok yes updated this morning.

The piano roll stuff seems totally fixed now so far. Best its worked in months.

So great.

I hate to complain but there is a new problem.  Unrelated. Another thing I do very often is I hold CTRL and move a clip creating a copy of it. I do this a lot putting together songs.  So I started messing with current project. Piano roll not effecting anything so far. Seems fixed. But when I CTRL click and drag a clip creating a copy when I drop it the track view expands and drops the clip into track that I move it to but stretches the entire song. Every track and moves everything over creating room for new clip. Before creating a copy this way didn't do this. It just dropped clip copy where I drag it to with no effect to the rest of the tracks. I actually see where this would be handy when I am trying to add a clip and stretch the song. I wouldn't have to move everything over to create room. But 95% of the time I only want to CTRL drag copy clip to another spot. I don't want to spread song to add it. Would totally mess me up. I would have to go back and move every track back to its original position.  And worse I noticed if I drag it to the middle of other tracks it even splits those clips already there in every track. This is terrible. I hope this is something in  the settings I can get switched back to the way it always was and not something I would have to wait on another patch to fix. I am looking in preferences but don't see where I can revert that back to the old way. When I CTRL drag a clip to copy it I don't want it to effect the rest of tracks any. No splitting and stretching song.

Would ruin my productivity.

[Michael Crepps]

To explain further I tried to click on a track. hit CTRL C to copy it. then clicked in another area and clicked CTRL V to make a copy. When it dropping the clip copy into track it also once again stretched the song to include the clip. This is terrible. Just very frustrating. How am I supposed to copy tracks and put them in song if It spreads song out around clip copy.  No way to get anything done like this. IS there anything in preferences that has been turned on with new patch that would cause this?

I must get this fixed immediately. This would slow me down just as much as the piano roll issue that was just fixed.

Ok I have messed with sonar some more. Also now when I click on any track and move it it moves every other track in whole project. Like all the clips are in a group. What in the heck is going on. Im not talking about CTRL drag. Its messed up too but just regular click and drag moves all tracks over.   How do I get this off?

Edited March 6 by Michael Crepps