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Since working with Cakewalk, it would crash now and then while loading a project. Each time it would refer to a vst plugin used in the project (Korg Wavestation) with a "Crash Code: C0000005 (Access Violation)" note and dump file. After 3-5 efforts, it would eventually load. In Sonar, it's not getting any better. Now, I don't even get an error notification most of the times after a crash.

Initially, I would get the "Crash Code: C0000005 (Access Violation)" crash notification, but now this doesn't even happen anymore. While loading, Sonar quits with no error message - nothing! It simply quits. Initially, I thought it may be a problem with the vst, but today I had a crash while working on another project that ONLY uses the Cakewalk TTS-1 synth.  As I was working, Sonar crashed, with the usual "Access Violation" referencing the TTS-1 (see attached). So, this persistent problem does not seem to be related to any specific vst plugin. 

I am getting desperate now...I contacted Korg support, and their response is as slow as a sloth. I contacted Bandlab support, but thus far they haven't been able to determine the cause of the problem.  Please, if anyone can share ideas about this, I'll appreciated it dearly.

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Have you made sure your Visual C++ Redistributables are up to date?  Some plugins force an install of earlier versions, which can be problematic.

A link to the latest redists install can be found in this post:
 

 

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18 hours ago, Terry Kelley said:

You’ll  get it to work randomly but it will always give you grief.

My TTS-1 works completely stable and predictable in the latest versions of Cakewalk and Sonar. There is one trick that can help you (everyone): if you have several different instruments in the VSTi instrument rack, and you try to add TTS-1 after them, it can indeed work unstably. I did the following - I deleted all the VSTi instruments from the rack, first added TTS-1, and then added all the others, this method has been tested with complete success hundreds of times on different computers in different countries.

But this only applies to new projects that you create in new versions of Cakewalk or Sonar, all my old projects created on old versions of SONAR X... and Platinum series, open and work without the slightest anomaly. But if I try to add an additional TTS-1 to these old projects, then problems can begin.

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I tried all permutations of talking nice to it. It’s just not usable anymore. Haven’t tried the new Sonar but history suggests it will be  flaky.

But hey if you can get it to work, cool. There are alternatives though.

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19 hours ago, IgoRr said:

first added TTS-1, and then added all the others, this method has been tested with complete success

Thank you, this is very helpful. In most instances, I have the TTS-1 loaded before adding other VSTs anyway, because I use it as a quick starter in my templates to get up and running with each new song. To those who may query the wisdom of using such an old synth --

I use it mostly for planning. It has a few grat drum kits which work well with the Step Sequencer.

One instance of TTS-1 has 16x instruments, which is very easy on system resources. It's easy to record midi tracks with no latency, with all of the FX "on".

Once I have the basic song with all of its tracks and instrument groups, I start to explore alternative, more modern synths. Sometimes, one or two TTS-1 instruments even remain in the mix. 

If anyone is interested -- I have the Step Sequencer set up with all the drums already loaded from the TTS-1.

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