Salvatore Sorice Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I've been reading some good articles / tutorials about the Sonitus Suite of plugins that are (currently) still included with Sonar. Sound on Sound (SOS) magazine has some great articles. Groove3.com has wonderful content on them included in their (old but still very relevant) Sonar X1, X2, etc. tutorials. And, as always, Mike @Creative Sauce has some fabulous content about them (and about Cakewalk in general). Of course, there are also many videos about them on Youtube as well. I'm experimenting with the Sonitus Suite and must admit that, once you take the time to learn them, they are really powerful and sound great - sometimes rivaling other more "sophisticated" plugins. Since they are DX plugins my question to the Bakers (and I am tagging @Noel Borthwick here, since he may have some good insight) I'm wondering if they will continue to be supported as Sonar evolves. Will they be updated? Will they be converted (or whatever the correct jargon is, as I'm no programmer) to VST? Will they be deprecated? Comments please!! 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgoRr Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I completely agree with your assessment of these magnificent, effective plugins from a famous brand! And I join the question (request) about continuing to use these plugins in future versions of Sonar. As for updating the plugins themselves, I have doubts, because this is a different team of developers, and as far as I understand, since then, this team has not released anything else. I heard somewhere that at some point, the plugins became 64-bit, but I have not heard about any more updates. It would be great if the company updated them in accordance with modern interface technologies and in the VST format! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberwolf Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) Are they still included? There was a topic a short while back discussing things that weren't, and those weren't, AFAICR. (and I think the company that made them is long gone) Maybe it was just the DX versions, and the VST was still included? (EDIT: was wrong--not VST, just 64bit?) Anyway, if you have them on your system from an old install, they should still work (I use them all the time in my ancient Sonar version, in every project, especially the Multiband Compressor and the Delay). EDIT: I can't find the thread now (was going to link to it and quote the relevant part), though there are a lot that mention Sonitus... I did find one of the 2024 Sonar threads by Morten Saether that specifically lists that at least one Sonitus plug was updated, so I guess they are still including and fixing them. https://discuss.cakewalk.com/topic/82965-sonar-202411/#comment-575840 Quote Refreshed Sonitus:delay plugin, resolving stability issues Fixed: Sonitus:delay crashes Sonar at higher sample rates like 96K when delay time is high Edited January 27 by Amberwolf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOK Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 The devs have said that the Sonitus plugins are slated to be ported to VST at some point - but that it's not super-high on their priority list. However, they did recently fix a long-standing bug in Sonitus delay. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noynekker Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 When I need to add some delay (usually on vocals or guitars) Sonitus Delay is still my go to Delay Plugin . . . it just works, has great and well defined starting presets, and intuitive stereo controls. Would be great to keep it going. Here's my support chant: VST ! VST ! VST ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 @Sal Sorice Cakewalk purchased the rights to the Sonitus plugin suite years ago. They recompiled them for 64bit DX when they introduced 64 bit versions of SONAR. There has been talk of conversion to VST and a GUI overhaul, but I suspect that is on a back burner for now. As Cakewalk own them I doubt they will drop them. What would be nice to see would the return of the mastering plugings consisting of the Linear Phase EQ, MultiBand compressor and the Adaptive limiter. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Borthwick Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 17 hours ago, Sal Sorice said: I've been reading some good articles / tutorials about the Sonitus Suite of plugins that are (currently) still included with Sonar. Sound on Sound (SOS) magazine has some great articles. Groove3.com has wonderful content on them included in their (old but still very relevant) Sonar X1, X2, etc. tutorials. And, as always, Mike @Creative Sauce has some fabulous content about them (and about Cakewalk in general). Of course, there are also many videos about them on Youtube as well. I'm experimenting with the Sonitus Suite and must admit that, once you take the time to learn them, they are really powerful and sound great - sometimes rivaling other more "sophisticated" plugins. Since they are DX plugins my question to the Bakers (and I am tagging @Noel Borthwick here, since he may have some good insight) I'm wondering if they will continue to be supported as Sonar evolves. Will they be updated? Will they be converted (or whatever the correct jargon is, as I'm no programmer) to VST? Will they be deprecated? Comments please!! The sonitus plugins will definitely be supported going forward. We're in fact currently working on some updates to the suite so stay tuned. 10 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatore Sorice Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 39 minutes ago, Noel Borthwick said: The sonitus plugins will definitely be supported going forward. We're in fact currently working on some updates to the suite so stay tuned. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgoRr Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 hours ago, Wookiee said: What would be nice to see would the return of the mastering plugings consisting of the Linear Phase EQ, MultiBand compressor and the Adaptive limiter. These plugins can be installed today by downloading (or having) "Additional Content" for Cakewalk SONAR X... (old). You will just need a registry entry about "installed SONAR Platinum" so that you can run the installers from that set. You will not need to install SONAR Platinum itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Hell, I use them in other DAWs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, IgoRr said: These plugins can be installed today by downloading (or having) "Additional Content" for Cakewalk SONAR X... (old). You will just need a registry entry about "installed SONAR Platinum" so that you can run the installers from that set. You will not need to install SONAR Platinum itself. I know, I was not thinking of myself but other users. I have used/owned every Cakewalk flagship version since 1992. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Smith Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 17 hours ago, Terry Kelley said: Hell, I use them in other DAWs. That's interesting :>) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayne White Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I for one am hoping to get VST versions of the Sonitus suite, it would make saving/loading presets a lot easier. That being said, the 64-bit DX versions work great too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberwolf Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Whether it's currently available or not, there *was* apparently a VST version at some point http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/1962543 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatore Sorice Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 13 hours ago, Amberwolf said: Whether it's currently available or not, there *was* apparently a VST version at some point http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/1962543 Maybe the plan is to update the 32 bit to 64 bit and overhaul the look of the plugins? That would be great! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Sal Sorice said: Maybe the plan is to update the 32 bit to 64 bit and overhaul the look of the plugins? That would be great! They are DX plugins and 32 bit DX plugins don't work in a 64 bit OS. Cakewalk updated them to 64 bit DX plugings years ago when 64 bit OS became the norm. It has been hinted at, in this very thread, that work has been ongoing to update the GUI and look towards turning them into VST format plugins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 1/29/2025 at 1:32 AM, Wayne Smith said: That's interesting :>) For now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 On 1/27/2025 at 1:39 PM, IgoRr said: I completely agree with your assessment of these magnificent, effective plugins from a famous brand! I am (and always have been) impressed by the amount of love that the Sonitus FX suite still gets. It seems that Cakewalk, Inc. knew what it was doing when it bought the suite (was it the entire company?) over 25 years ago. My nderstanding is that they began life as a premium commercial suite, then Cakewalk bought up the suite for inclusion with their DAW. They are kinda homely by 2025 standards (and the UI's are tiny), and I have resisted usiung them because they are effectively "DAW-locked" and can't be used in other audio and video hosts. I like to be able to use the same processors when I switch back and forth between different programs. But when I've tried them, they seem to sound great and have good workflows (esp. given that they are now over 25 years old). The multiband compressor and delay especially seem to have a lot going for them. Craig Anderton likes them so much that he uses a DXi-to-VST wrapper to be able to use them in other hosts. I'd love to see them get more contemporary (flatter, darker, resizable) UI's, and ported to VST3. And yes, while we're at it, making the Cakewalk linear phase EQ and multiband compressor available would be nice. They're great processors and would make good additions to Sonar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 The biggest plus for me for the Sonitus plugins is their CPU usage. They were originally released back in 1998, when a typical PC was a Pentium running at 200Mhz. The DSP code had to be efficient to run on those machines... but on modern machines they hardly make a dent on CPU. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 I just hope it looks simple and elegant with a flat dark look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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