Francois van der Merwe Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) I just want to add that if you do need a very simple (but capable DAW) then Bandlab's other product Bandlab Online is the ideal DAW. Edited December 27, 2019 by Francois van der Merwe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 9:15 PM, Joe Dun said: It took quite a lot of effort on both myself, and others, to finally drill down to the root cause. I.e. the active area is not normally available until you expand the tracks. Missed this discussion originally, but, for the record, the hotspot described in the Ref. Guide works for me at absolute minimum height and width of tracks. That said, I usually use the area to the right of the top row of widgets, as it's usually wider and easier to hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fogle Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 @pwalpwal. I get what you're saying and agree more than you might think. I get aggravated almost anytime someone evangelizes a thought and did not suggest that method of attracting new users, But perhaps you misunderstood my post . @Joe Dun restated my thought much better than I possibly can. @Francois van der Merwe's comment is very interesting. I wonder how many forum members have looked at the online DAW. I admit I haven't but not for the reason many suspect. The online DAW requires the user to install and use Google Chrome and I don't use Chrome. I've tried alternate browsers that rely on Chrome technology but the BandLab.com website rejects them. However, I've used the online mixer available on another website and was happily surprised at the ease of use. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user 905133 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jim Fogle said: I wonder how many forum members have looked at the online DAW. I will assume by "online DAW" you mean Bandlab. I have looked at it and tested a few things in it. I think for someone starting out, it should be easier to learn than Cakewalk. It was quite frustrating for me for two reasons: (1) I have experience with the Cakewalk/SONAR/Cakewalk by Bandlab line of products, so I had to spend time trying to learn how to do in Bandlab what I already knew how to do in Cakewalk/SONAR and (2) based on my prior usage, I found Bandlab didn't seem to give me the control over what I wanted to do that I had with Cakewalk/SONAR. However, I found it to be far more accessible and intuitive than other music production/recording software I purchased but have never been able to use. Also, I took note of the social aspects of Bandlab and have it on my personal to-do list to learn the ins and outs of collaborating via Bandlab. I like that Bandlab projects [or whatever they are called there] can be exported and then opened in Cakewalk (and presumably vice versa). I barely scratched the surface of Bandlab, but I see value in it. Apologies if by "the online DAW" you did not mean Bandlab. Edited December 27, 2019 by User 905133 to add "purchased and" before have never been able to use 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davydh Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I love Cakewalk pretty much the way it is. Of course there can always be improvements, but the loyal users like it for a reason. If you want something more streamlined, use the BandLab app on your PC browser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fogle Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I never exceeded the capabilities of the Music Creator consumer DAW formerly offered by Cakewalk. The products were extremely stable and worked with audio, groove clips, song construction sets and midi. The earlier products shipped with a printed manual that explained how to set up the DAW and its capabilities in easy to understand language. The manual offered tutorials that were instructive and easy to follow. Some audio content was included to learn and practice on. My point is, Cakewalk use to know how to educate a beginner new to audio production. I believe Cakewalk has either lost that knowledge or that goal is far down the "to do" list. My question is what can forum members do to fill that gap and is there a desire to do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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