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Hi everyone.

Lately, I have had a notification pop up each time I start Sonar. I have no idea what it relates to because in Preferences, I only have my Scarlett 4i4 selected. It may be related to the fact that one of the projects I have been working on also freezes a while after starting playing back. It plays back ok, but then, with no warning, Sonar freezes. The timer comes up, after which I have to force quit Sonar.

I hope someone can give a suggestion or two.

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7 hours ago, Promidi said:

What is in Preferences - MIDI - Control Surfaces

Everywhere Focusrite USB Mide is selected, but there is something else under Control Surfaces. I didn't know what it is.

Could this be the reason why notes played via m Midi keyboard generate double notes, i.e. two of the exact same notes stacked on top of each other in the Piano Roll view?

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1 hour ago, Cobus Prinsloo said:

Everywhere Focusrite USB Mide is selected, but there is something else under Control Surfaces. I didn't know what it is.

Could this be the reason why notes played via m Midi keyboard generate double notes, i.e. two of the exact same notes stacked on top of each other in the Piano Roll view?

One way to find out.....

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3 hours ago, Promidi said:

Remove that entry in Preferences - MIDI - Control Surfaces and see what happens....

It looks like that solved the issue -- thank you! 

Midi notes still stack doubles in the Piano Roll for some bizarre reason, though.

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3 minutes ago, Cobus Prinsloo said:

Midi notes still stack doubles in the Piano Roll for some bizarre reason, though.

Forgive me if this is mentioned elsewhere.....  but what model is your MIDI keyboard?

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56 minutes ago, Promidi said:

Forgive me if this is mentioned elsewhere.....  but what model is your MIDI keyboard?

Oh - it's an old one - a Casio WK-1600, but it has functioned well until I started getting those stacked Midid notes about two weeks ago. I didn't change any of the Midi cables, so this is a mystery.

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1 minute ago, Cobus Prinsloo said:

Oh - it's an old one - a CasioWK-1600, but it has functioned well until I started getting those stacked Midid notes about two weeks ago. I didn't change any of the Midi cables, so this is a mystery.

I am using a PCR-800 which is also quite old and I have never had this issue.

I am sure we can get the bottom of this.

Can you please try the following:

If you create a project with a single MIDI track. 

On this MIDI track:

1) set the input to receive from CasioWK-1600 on MIDI channel 1 (or what ever MIDI channel the CasioWK-1600 is transmitting on - even omni might do)

2)  set input echo on, arm it.

When you record to this single MIDI track, does this scenario create the doubled notes?

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This notification typically appears when a MIDI device is no longer available - reasons include:

1. The interface/device is switched off
2. USB sleep mode has kicked in and turned it off
3. Some other program has the MIDI device open
4. Bad USB cable 
5. Dirty USB connections

You can check in preferences to see if the device is there or not... if it's not, the best thing to do is close CbB/Sonar, ensure the device is switched on and plugged in, then restart CbB/Sonar.  In this scenario, it'll recover.

If you go into preferences and change the Control Surfaces config, you'll have lost its previous configuration... in which case it might be easier to remove/add the control surface again.  Remember you also need to re-load any preset you'd been using within the control surface's dialog.

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