Sonar 2024.12 Feedback

[Mark D.]

In Track View, you still can only resize the FX bin a limited amount. Using dozens of plug ins, you have to go into the bin and scroll to see them. Please fix this!

[Glenn Stanton]

13 hours ago, Mark D. said:

In Track View, you still can only resize the FX bin a limited amount. Using dozens of plug ins, you have to go into the bin and scroll to see them. Please fix this!

another option (one i use) is keeping everything in the Pro Channel (PC) view including the FX Chain which let's you install many FX and allows scrolling.

if you're using so many FX on a single track, you might also think about using a "channel" FX which can bundle many FX into a single UI (e.g. the Waves SSL Track FX has EQ, compression, expansion, filtering, side-chaining, gain etc) and could make things easier for you.

[Mark D.]

7 hours ago, Glenn Stanton said:

another option (one i use) is keeping everything in the Pro Channel (PC) view including the FX Chain which let's you install many FX and allows scrolling.

if you're using so many FX on a single track, you might also think about using a "channel" FX which can bundle many FX into a single UI (e.g. the Waves SSL Track FX has EQ, compression, expansion, filtering, side-chaining, gain etc) and could make things easier for you.

Thanks for the reply and  tips. I put together images & videos showing issues. When I mix I rarely use more than a handful of VSTs that will fit. I master what I mix and do pure mastering and track view is optimal for that as you'll see. I hope @Noel Borthwickcan view this and let me know when it may be fixed in updates.
 

 

Edited December 27, 2024 by Mark D.

[Noel Borthwick]

2 hours ago, Mark D. said:

Thanks for the reply and  tips. I put together images & videos showing issues. When I mix I rarely use more than a handful of VSTs that will fit. I master what I mix and do pure mastering and track view is optimal for that as you'll see. I hope @Noel Borthwickcan view this and let me know when it may be fixed in updates.
 

 

This isn’t a bug. Feature requests should be posted in the feature requests channel.

[Jim Stamper]

On 12/25/2024 at 4:34 PM, James Togher said:

Currently having two issues with this build. As this is the first build I have used i do not know if these exisited prior to this release.

Issue #1 - After recording of automation (e.g. slider fade) play back of automation will not work until project is saved, closed and reloaded.

Issue #2 - Control surface input has notable delay (e.g. Arturia Keylab88 mapped as mackie controller, sliders work but there is significant delay before DAW responds rendering the control surface unusable)

I don't believe I saw a response to James' issues. I haven't loaded 2024.12 yet, but these issues will be a problem for me, if they are not unique to James.

[David Baay]

1 hour ago, Jim Stamper said:

I haven't loaded 2024.12 yet, but these issues will be a problem for me, if they are not unique to James.

I'm not seeing either of those issues using a control surface with the AZController plugin. I don't currently have a Mackie surface set up. His second issue may be due to PDC-inducing plugins.

I'm pretty sure there would be more reports of problems if there were a more general issue with Mackie control in Sonar.

[Mark D.]

On 12/26/2024 at 10:37 PM, Noel Borthwick said:

This isn’t a bug. Feature requests should be posted in the feature requests channel.

Hello Noel. I'd  linked to where I put the feature request in. I got a reply that it'd be kept on file as a suggestion. While  not a bug it's a sudden major change affecting everyone. If the old code can be put back in, to make that new resizing boxes layout optional, so it can be switched back to enlarge as needed to let all plug-ins to be visible it can help me & likely many others. I'd asked you here since I recognized your name and role / I didn't know if you knew that I posted about it months ago, and if you heard of this actually being worked on now. It's also a larger issue, that such changes should perhaps be done as optional or at least vetted in the community. I think we all would have wanted it optional.

[Cloud Cave]

Sonar Issue: No Track Numbers and Automation Node information 'windows' are blank. Most of the time when opening a project (existing or new) the track numbers in Track View are not present, and the information 'window' for nodes in automation are blank. On rare occasions I have track numbers and information in automation node information windows.  Version 2024.12. Suggestions?

[Michael Crepps]

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Since these last 2 patches my Sonar has not been working well.  2 issues. One is when piano roll is open and I am in track view sonar becomes crazy sluggish. Cant stop playback. Just pretty much becomes unusable. I click back on Piano Roll view and after like 30 seconds it finally highlights that window and I can close it. Once Piano Roll is closed everything works fine. Been using cakewalk/sonar for 20 years. Never had this problem ever. Been really shitty last month or two.

But recently I have a new problem. I use audio monitoring one active track to record Guitar. I add effects live as I'm playing using Amplitube 5.  In sonar Performance window its playing everything and adding effects to my guitar live with no noticeable latency. Haven't had a problem doing this for last 5 years. But suddenly in last week I am getting these spikes. Audio processing stays around 18 to 20 %. Engine load stays between 40 to 65% if I have audio monitoring on or not.  If I play the song or don't. If in playing my guitar even when the song isn't playing. Or if I click record and play guitar adding effects live to other tracks playing. Doesn't matter. No noticeable spikes either way. Same usage percentages if I click ply or stop or record or have audio monitoring on in a track. Barely changes the percentages of Engine Load and Audio Processing. But randomly like every 3 seconds to every 10 second there is an Audio dropout. Im getting a late buffer but whats crazy is in the performance window if im watching the Audio Processing jumps to 100%Max for a split second and the Engine Load jumps to 1300 to 1900% Max .

This seems very weird. Never had this problem before. The only thing that changed is recent Sonar patch and a recent Win 11 update.  My RME HDSPe AIO card Sonar said it wouldn't work with it. So I checked and RME released a new patch for it like a day or 2 after Sonar patch.  I believe The RME card had problems due to Win 11 Update. Once I got new drivers the RME card showed back up in Sonar.  But it worked fine for like a week then suddenly started having these strange spikes in CPU. I pulled up Windoes Task Manager and the CPU is spiking hard when I have these audio dropouts.  Seems if engine load is jumping to 1300 to 1900% Max then there is some conflict going on. But I dont know haw to diagnose it any further. I am paying for Sonar. Not having a very good time with it. I hope someone can help.

 

OK*****

I think I figured out my CPU spikes. So weird cause after I installed new RME HDSPe AIO card drivers I have been getting a Popup when Sonar starts that Control Surface not loading. So I searched that subject on Google. It said it was a midi thing. So I thought maybe that's whats causing my Piano Rolls to lock up Sonar if its open in the background and not the the window I'm focused on.  I went into preferences and under MIDI / Devices   I had M-Audio Keystation 49 keyboard on but the RME AIO midi was off in input and outputs. Not sure if this would effect anything since I dont use the AIO Midi inputs ever but I clicked them on and went back into sonar and started testing if that helped Piano Roll window causing sonar to be sluggish. Well it had no effect. Piano Roll still messed up. Been messed up since last two Sonar patches. But to my surprise it totally fixed my CPU spikes. This is so odd but all I can figure is my audio card was being used as an audio device in sonar but because the midi was turned off even though I don't use it it was still causing some error and my Audio card was glitching out.

I am playing everything now and my percentages in Sonar performance meter are not spiking any. So weird that it was Midi related. I guess when I updated my RME card it turned off the Midi devices in Sonar.  Hadn't looked at it really because it was Midi and also because I been using everything without error for so long that I couldn't remember if the Midi devises were clicked before or not.

Now if I could get Piano Roll window to work like it used to. I would be back in business.

I am pretty sure the piano roll thing is Sonar patch related cause nothing else changed but the Patch. It was instantaneous after patch before last and still the same.

Edited Tuesday at 03:50 AM by Michael Crepps