Lemion Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 (edited) https://www.humblebundle.com/software/native-instruments-presents-lofi-flash-sale-software It's my first time posting here, thank you for the warm welcome & thanks to you I've been able to get good stuff (Like the StereoLab or the Spitfire deal). ❤️ Honestly, except the $1 Tier for Hazy Days (Though it's just the sample pack & not even the actual expansion), it's probably the worst deal I've ever seen on Humble & from Native Instruments. A quick breakdown for the 7 items going for $30 & supposedly worth "$294 in value": Guitar Rig 7 LE (Not available for purchase alone | $30 Tier to unlock), has just a few more effects than the free version, but the included ones like Raum are often given away for free in campaign. (GR7 Pro: 141 Effects | GR7 Free: 28 Effects | GR7 LE: 46 Effects, just 14 more than the Free version). Lo-Fi Glow ($49 Retail | $30 Tier to unlock), NI quite often does a 50% discount on the Play-Series plugins. Faded Reels Sample Pack ($29 Retail | $30 Tier to unlock ). TIL that they now do tiers for their expansions, $29 for the samples & $49 for the expansion (samples + presets). Just making things even more confusing. Drift Theory Sample Pack ($29 Retail | $20 Tier to unlock). Same story, just the Wav. Analog Dreams (FREE | $20 Tier to unlock?!) How unashamed one has to be to include in a bundle & paywall stuff that are available for free on their website. Cloud Supply ($49 | $20 Tier to unlock) Same story as Lo-Fi Glow, often discounted at 50%. Hazy Days Sample Pack ($29 Retail | $1 Tier to unlock) The only item that is worth it. Total Value: 49 + 29 + 29 + 49 + 29 + 0 (AG) = $185 value. Nowhere near close the $294 advertised value, unless NI claims GR7 LE is worth $109 when it has just 14 more effects than the free version while GR7 pro retails for $199 with the full 141 effects.😂 In summary, really disappointed in NI for misleading customers by artificially boosting the value of the bundle by including products that are literally free on their website (Analog Dreams) falsely giving the impression there's more than there actually is, overestimating the value of the bundle by over 30% & only including the cheaper versions of the listed expansions (Which confused some believing they were getting the expansions, but in fact only got the samples .Wav). Edit: As others mentioned, the packs (Faded Reels, Drift Theory & Hazy Days) are just the samples packs (.Wav only, $29 value) & not the expansions ($49). Edited October 25 by Lemion More details & clarification. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubdisciple Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 I think we are so spoiled and own so many plugins and samples that anything less than giving away the farm seems like it's not a deal. This is not the "best" deal they have ever offered, but for someone that does not own these products it's not bad. Yes, value is somewhat hyperbole, but you said the key phrase referring to these often being discounted. Often is not always so posting the retail value is not a giant stretch on anything except the le products . I don't personally have need of this product, but I can see it being useful and a deal for a beginner. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jude77 Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 When it comes to deals, the way I see it is one person's deal is the next person's "Meh". Either way, thanks for posting and welcome to the forum!! There are a lot of good people and good things here so drop in often. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemion Posted October 24 Author Share Posted October 24 (edited) 11 hours ago, dubdisciple said: I think we are so spoiled and own so many plugins and samples that anything less than giving away the farm seems like it's not a deal. This is not the "best" deal they have ever offered, but for someone that does not own these products it's not bad. Yes, value is somewhat hyperbole, but you said the key phrase referring to these often being discounted. Often is not always so posting the retail value is not a giant stretch on anything except the le products . I don't personally have need of this product, but I can see it being useful and a deal for a beginner. Agreed, it's still high-quality stuff (being myself a daily user of their products), I think that's definitely a good point made that we're too used to have large discounts all the time (can we really be blamed it's how the industry works though... deliberately overpricing their products (Not NI) just to give the impression we're getting an massive deal every time they go on discounts. Looking at you Air Instruments, Xpand!2 being at '90%' discount 11 out of 12 months 👀). Still, am I being too harsh on calling them out that including products that is free on their website (Analog Dreams & Guitar Player 7 LE (Too little difference from the free version)) behind the $20-$30 tier price doesn't feel right? 🤔 Edited October 24 by Lemion Formatting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemion Posted October 24 Author Share Posted October 24 10 hours ago, jude77 said: When it comes to deals, the way I see it is one person's deal is the next person's "Meh". Either way, thanks for posting and welcome to the forum!! There are a lot of good people and good things here so drop in often. Thank you very much for the warm welcome! Can't thank this community enough for the Spitfire 50% discount code ❤️ True, I just would had hoped for more transparency from NI because including products that are free on their website behind a $20-30 tier on Humble didn't really feel right. Maybe I'm just overreacting 😅 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamienF Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 I don't know if a lot of people who use Guitar Rig would use Play series stuff and vice versa And, anyway, Play series stuff are most of the time quite lame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skijumptoes Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 20 hours ago, dubdisciple said: I think we are so spoiled and own so many plugins and samples that anything less than giving away the farm seems like it's not a deal. This is not the "best" deal they have ever offered, but for someone that does not own these products it's not bad. People need to remember what the whole Humble Bundle thing is about too, it's not just about deals but it generates money for charities too, and they're quite transparent on their cut and the developers cut - hence why you can overpay on products and even use the donation adjustment to slide down the percentage that goes to NI and put more into the charity. Edited October 24 by Skijumptoes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamienF Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 you're right, so spend more money in the IK Pro Sound suite 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Per Christian Frankplads Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Hazy Days is only in Komplete 15 Ultimate CE, so it's probably worth to pay $1 to get it this way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubdisciple Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 18 hours ago, Lemion said: Agreed, it's still high-quality stuff (being myself a daily user of their products), I think that's definitely a good point made that we're too used to have large discounts all the time (can we really be blamed it's how the industry works though... deliberately overpricing their products (Not NI) just to give the impression we're getting an massive deal every time they go on discounts. Looking at you Air Instruments, Xpand!2 being at '90%' discount 11 out of 12 months 👀). Still, am I being too harsh on calling them out that including products that is free on their website (Analog Dreams & Guitar Player 7 LE (Too little difference from the free version)) behind the $20-$30 tier price doesn't feel right? 🤔 I do understand you calling out the confusing pricing . I think i acknowledged that was annoying, but that happens sometimes with so many sales, promotions being offered by both developer and third parties. I welcome you to forum as well. Sone good people here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Russ Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 It's also confusing because they say that some of these are samples only but I have read other people say that they include Battery kits with the expansions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirean Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 7 minutes ago, Magic Russ said: It's also confusing because they say that some of these are samples only but I have read other people say that they include Battery kits with the expansions. I bought the $1 tier just to test. Only got WAV files. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamienF Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 "Two ways to get Hazy Days You can buy the Samples version of Hazy Days – a wav-only pack with all the loops and one-shots. Or if you want all the synth presets, Battery kits, and Maschine projects, go for the full Expansion." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubdisciple Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 I don't mind getting just the samples and may pick up hazy days. I rarely use my maschine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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