locrian Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Review: https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2024/08/29/sampleson-collab3-v2/ D/L: https://sampleson.com/collab3-free-tonewheel-organ.html 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSistine Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Regrettably it is not really free! You get a key for online authorization. I definitely prefer v1! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoaststeve Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Has anyone had any success loading the presets from v1 into v2? I'm finding that the v1 presets are extremely quiet when I try to use them in v2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaartian Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 1 hour ago, southcoaststeve said: Has anyone had any success loading the presets from v1 into v2? I'm finding that the v1 presets are extremely quiet when I try to use them in v2. I get no audio at all when loading a v1 preset in v2. First, I copied them from the v1 install folder into the v2 User Presets folder. They didn't even show up in v2. So, I moved them down into the Factory Bank subfolder and they showed up, but were silent. If there's a way of scanning for new presets, I couldn't find it. How did you get any audio at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoaststeve Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 I copied the v1 presets to the clipboard and then imported them into v2. I've no idea how I got the audio but the v1 presets are so quiet they're useless anyway... I've sent an email to Sampleson and will let you know if I get a response. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaartian Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 17 hours ago, southcoaststeve said: I copied the v1 presets to the clipboard and then imported them into v2. I've no idea how I got the audio but the v1 presets are so quiet they're useless anyway... I've sent an email to Sampleson and will let you know if I get a response. Maybe I needed to turn the volume of my audio interface up to the max, hard clipping range. Looking forward to Sampleson's response. And it's not like there are a ton of presets. 13 total, 6 with v1 and 7 with v2. I would be nice to have both, but maybe with the new audio engine in v2, the v1 presets won't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoaststeve Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 The reply: "Unfortunately, it's not possible to install the factory presets from Collab V1 into V2. The two versions are designed differently, and the presets from V1 aren’t compatible with V2." I also had this exact issue with the Dubstation delay plugin. The presets from v1 were incompatible with v2. Why this should be the case makes no sense to me whatsoever but as I have no experience in building plugins, that's probably not surprising. If anyone is able to shed light on this, I would be most grateful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaartian Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 hour ago, southcoaststeve said: The reply: "Unfortunately, it's not possible to install the factory presets from Collab V1 into V2. The two versions are designed differently, and the presets from V1 aren’t compatible with V2." I also had this exact issue with the Dubstation delay plugin. The presets from v1 were incompatible with v2. Why this should be the case makes no sense to me whatsoever but as I have no experience in building plugins, that's probably not surprising. If anyone is able to shed light on this, I would be most grateful. Thanks for the update. As I suspected, the v1 presets are incompatible with the more complex v2 plugin. The only option is to leave v1 installed along side v2 and recreate as best as possible each v1 preset sound that you like in v2 and save as a v2 user preset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esteban Villanova Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Or you could just copy the 13 presets onto v2 manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaartian Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 44 minutes ago, Esteban Villanova said: Or you could just copy the 13 presets onto v2 manually. Sorry, but you misunderstand the problem. The v1 presets DO NOT WORK with v2. I copied them into the v2 Factory Bank folder and v2 found them and loaded them, but the v1 presets are incompatible with v2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esteban Villanova Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 6 hours ago, John Maar said: Sorry, but you misunderstand the problem. The v1 presets DO NOT WORK with v2. I copied them into the v2 Factory Bank folder and v2 found them and loaded them, but the v1 presets are incompatible with v2. Yeah, I mean manually copying the draw bar and control settings from v1 to v2. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaartian Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 8 hours ago, Esteban Villanova said: Yeah, I mean manually copying the draw bar and control settings from v1 to v2. That would work! 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 That's the great thing about drawbar organs: you can easily replicate any Hammond tone if you know the registration (drawbar positions), percussion settings (just 3 switches) and chorus/vibrato selection. I learned the settings for Whiter Shade of Pale (68860000, 2nd harmonic percussion soft+slow) from a video of a Procol Harem performance, where the camera hovered over the organ just long enough to pause the video. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaartian Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 14 hours ago, bitflipper said: That's the great thing about drawbar organs: you can easily replicate any Hammond tone if you know the registration (drawbar positions), percussion settings (just 3 switches) and chorus/vibrato selection. I learned the settings for Whiter Shade of Pale (68860000, 2nd harmonic percussion soft+slow) from a video of a Procol Harem performance, where the camera hovered over the organ just long enough to pause the video. Cool! Thanks. I just tried those settings with the new Cherry Audio release of Blue 3. Sounds close, but not quite. What chorus and vibrato settings do you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 According to Mathew Fisher, chorus/vibrato was turned off. Check out this article. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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