Living Room Rocker Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Hello everyone, I have a setup with my interface (using the loop-back function) in CbB where in I can capture all recorded material in a single audio track. However, I don't want to capture the metronome playing during recording. I only want to hear the metronome during the count-in (and not the entire time I am recording). Could this be achieved? Kind regards, Living Room Rocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Sasor Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 3 hours ago, Living Room Rocker said: Hello everyone, I have a setup with my interface (using the loop-back function) in CbB where in I can capture all recorded material in a single audio track. However, I don't want to capture the metronome playing during recording. I only want to hear the metronome during the count-in (and not the entire time I am recording). Could this be achieved? Kind regards, Living Room Rocker Easiest way to do this is just putting a volume envelope on the metronome bus (as set up in stock project templates). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living Room Rocker Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 Yeah, I can do that. Thanks, Jonathan. Kind regards, Living Room Rocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 This is supposed to beep only during count-in then stop, but... It tends to record the last beep after count-in so it's not fool proof and should be fixed but it's there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living Room Rocker Posted August 26 Author Share Posted August 26 12 hours ago, sjoens said: It tends to record the last beep after count-in so it's not fool proof and should be fixed but it's there. Good call, sjoens. Do you know if this has been reported to the Bakers? Kind regards, Living Room Rocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 No idea. I haven't reported it. Maybe you can confirm if it happens or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Elliott Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 (edited) This might not be the issue but: If the sound being used for the metronome is long enough to extend past the end of the count-in bar(s), it's going to be in the recorded part. Same if it passes into any effects that reverb or delay or echo it, etc., causing it to continue past the end of the count-in. A hack to work around this is to leave a blank measure (or more) in front of your project to give time for the count in sound to die out. Some of the count in sounds may be longer than others, so depending on what you're using you might need more time after the count in for the sound to fade out. I use the very short sound I sent in to the bakers many years ago that is listed as Metro Click 2, which was recorded off the even more ancient Ensoniq ASR88 / EPS16+ workstation keyboards. I also have it routed directly to the output hardware, not thru any bus (or else thru it's own bus (to give me an easy-to-access volume control) that is routed to the hardware out, and never to the master bus), so it doesn't get included in anything I record, and won't be included in any mixdown that stops at the master bus. I used to have it routed to a separate audio output with it's own speaker back when I was using the ancient (but still working even now!) GadgetLabs Wave 8*24 on a desktop computer, but I have not had that computer working for years, and just have a stereo in/out USB interface now, so it doesn't have that option. When it was on it's own output I could simply turn the speakers for it off and never mess with any options in SONAR itself, leaving it enabled for everything (playback, recording, count-in, etc), and I could easily adjust the volume as needed, too. Edited September 29 by Amberwolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Elliott Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 On 8/25/2024 at 6:57 AM, Living Room Rocker said: I have a setup with my interface (using the loop-back function) in CbB where in I can capture all recorded material in a single audio track. Not that this has anything to do with the metronome issue, but have you ever tried the mixdown or bounce to track function instead of realtime loopback recording? I ask because the quoted description sounds like you're just combining all the tracks you already have into a single track for a "mixdown". If that's the case, then selecting all your material (Ctrl-A for all, for instance) then choosing Edit - Bounce to Tracks (might be different menu in modern Sonar/etc), then in the dialog choose a new track for the destination, "what you hear" for the preset, entire mix for the source category, etc. If you're trying to record new material at the same time and require the metronome count-in, then that won't do what you want, since it's not realtime. There is an option to do it realtime, including with live input recorded along with it, but that's basically what you are already doing right now, and would probably have the same issue if it uses the metronome. I don't know if it does, as I don't use that option since I would always want to be able to edit the new material separately from the existing material, on it's own new track, and only mixdown eveyrhting to one track later after all the editing is done, but not everyone works that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 On 8/25/2024 at 7:57 AM, Living Room Rocker said: I have a setup with my interface (using the loop-back function) in CbB where in I can capture all recorded material in a single audio track. I'm guessing this means you have a send from the Master bus to an Aux track that's recording. In that case, you just need to route the Metronome bus direct to Main Outs instead of to the Master bus. I generally do this so that the click isn't affecting my metering; you just have to keep in mind that it may cause clipping at the D/A converters, but ideally you won't be running your Master bus that hot while still tracking. I also usually run a "Pre-Master" bus ahead of the Master to sum all tracks with no mastering FX applied and a "--> Main Outs" bus between the Master and the interface to get the most flexibility in metering, mastering and A/Bing bounced Master tracks against the live mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 In my case it's possible the Metronome was going thru outboard FX so the last note's tail was recorded. I try to avoid this... most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 All you need to do is uncheck the metronome for both recording and playback. It will still be heard for the count-in. If you want the metronome completely silent, mute the metronome bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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