Installing SPLAT after CBB - where are my VSTs?

[Steve Moddelmog]

Just installed SPLAT - "just in case."  Why is everything greyed out in Plugin Manager, and where are my plugins?  Yes, I've got the right paths identified, but SPLAT won't scan and plugin lists are empty.

[Patrick Wichrowski]

Always install previous versions before.

[Steve Moddelmog]

4 hours ago, Patrick Wichrowski said:

Always install previous versions before.

Thanks.  I'm remembering this now...

[JonD]

Hey Steve, when you get up and running with SPLAT,  let us know how it compares with CbB (For example, any glaring bugs/shortcomings?).  I'm digging out my old archived data drives with previous versions of Sonar, so I'll be following your lead shortly.

Honestly, this is the last thing I expected to do, but after YEARS (since Sonar X1) of working with what I considered the perfect DAW UI for me -- well, let's just say New Sonar's 2D look is contrary to what my partially-color-blind eyes feel comfortable with.

 

Edited June 9, 2024 by JonD

[Canopus]

1 hour ago, JonD said:

Hey Steve, when you get up and running with SPLAT,  let us know how it compares with CbB (For example, any glaring bugs/shortcomings?).

Here’s a list of feature enhancements and bug fixes from 2018.04 to 2022.11. But first, go get a cup of coffee. The document is 87 pages long.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aFOe_zJrd3x2EnaZ_Jc3iSbZPG2WANiCD4_RP83OjlA/edit?pli=1#heading=h.2

The list ends there, so it’s not complete. There's a year missing, so I guess the guy who wrote it got tired of writing.

[JonD]

1 minute ago, Canopus said:

Here’s a list of feature enhancements and bug fixes from 2018.04 to 2022.11. But first, go get a cup of coffee. The document is 87 pages long.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aFOe_zJrd3x2EnaZ_Jc3iSbZPG2WANiCD4_RP83OjlA/edit?pli=1#heading=h.2

The list ends there, so it’s not complete. There's a year missing, so I guess the guy who wrote it got tired of writing.

Appreciate the link... but as a longtime user of sPlat up to the release of CbB, of course I'm aware of the huge list of bugs fixed by Bandlab.  Luckily for me,  I'm far from a power user, so the vast majority of those bugs shouldn't affect me anyway.  

That being said, I don't recall the bug fixes that did affect me (or will when I revert back to sPlat)! 

 So I'm hoping Steve will kindly share any "gotchas" he comes across -- as a warning to any users like me following in his footsteps.  No pressure, Steve!  ?

[Sidney Earl Goodroe]

When they first announced they were going to charge for CbB, I opened some recent projects in SPLAT and they ran without a hiccup! 

I did miss some of the newer features but nothing showstopping!

[CSistine]

Now I am using Splat and AFAIK that's what I miss:

• Take lanes: There were some bugs fixed, but there are still a lot present; so no essential change IMO
• New feature: Visual clip gain change
• New feature: Replace FX plugin
• The plugin selection dialog was improved visually
• Improved export MIDI file dialog
• New feature: Export tasks
• Instrument tracks support Stereo/Mono interleave

All other improvements or bug fixes in CbB compared to Splat don't impact my workflows. A lot of the fixed bugs were caused by new features and thus are not present in Splat. All in all I can live with this reduction, no essential show stopper! But YMMV!

[Canopus]

Some of the things I would miss if I had to go back to SONAR Platinum:

• Articulation Maps
• Arranger Tracks
• Tempo Tracks
• Support for ARA2

[Sidney Earl Goodroe]

As I said! Badly missed but not so much that it would stop me from going back to SPLAT.

I do have to say, Reaper is not looking too bad after all this drama with Sonar perpetual license drama!!

Currently,  my projects are seeing a lot of use with Samplitude and Mixbus.

I finally broke down and tried Reaper, which I must say, was pretty impressive for the price point and features. I do like having a notation editor built in to the DAW so I don't have to skip around for quick score print outs.

That is one feature that I absolutely must have! It is also what attracted me to Cakewalk in the first place.

Anyway, I am struggling with facing the ever growing fact that I will have to walk away from Cake after 20 some odd years of dedicated support and use of this product I have loved.

Still hoping ?  for perpetual licenses!

[Steve Moddelmog]

On 6/9/2024 at 8:49 AM, JonD said:

Hey Steve, when you get up and running with SPLAT,  let us know how it compares with CbB (For example, any glaring bugs/shortcomings?).  I'm digging out my old archived data drives with previous versions of Sonar, so I'll be following your lead shortly.

Honestly, this is the last thing I expected to do, but after YEARS (since Sonar X1) of working with what I considered the perfect DAW UI for me -- well, let's just say New Sonar's 2D look is contrary to what my partially-color-blind eyes feel comfortable with.

 

SPLAT would be ok.  A few CBB features I would miss, but nothing earth-shattering.  If the ability to activate with Command Center ceased to exist, I have X3.  I've used it a bit, and I do think that would be a step backwards and possibly a reason to look for a new DAW.  But it would be usable in a pinch, and the advantage is it would open the hundreds of Cakewalk projects I have.