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Sonar no longer "Coming Soon"


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1 hour ago, Heath Row said:

If it is they forgot to give out protection for your eyesight.

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Pick a pair up on your way through!!!

Oh, go cuddle your Waves One-Knobs....this is a signal processor for ENGINEERS. Serious, no-nonsense, get-the-job-done highly technical mix-with-your-ears engineers who care nothing for aesthetics. Designed to challenge the minds of the mighty and strike fear into the hearts of the weak! Gaze upon it and despair!

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Just reading those labels is enough to make me want to chug a Gatorade straight from the bottle. "GENERAL PARAMETERS" "DYNAMIC DETECTION" "GATE" "SIDE-CHAIN" "ATTACK"

Not enough knobs to keep you busy? There's a MULTIBAND version!!

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So it def looks like no perpetual and its quietly subscription from here via bandlab membership. 

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Same for SONAR .. so $149 per year for both.

Im surprised that they at least are not selling off NEXT as a perpetual cheaply - something like $60

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2 hours ago, pwal³ said:

i'm surprised (or not?) that there's been no official post in this thread....

Why bother. We're just going to keep having the same round-and-round  threads until BandLab says once and for all "these are the licensing terms."

Until then, I have a proposal.

To save time and bandwidth, the next time someone has the urge to either start or participate in a topic about licensing for the upcoming Sonar, refer to the list and just post the number of the endlessly-repeated statement.

First, there are only really 2 topics.

A. Someone at BandLab said something about the new Sonar but wasn't specific about final pricing

B. Nobody at BandLab has said anything about the new Sonar in a long time

  1. "This is weird, never seen anything like this before."
  2. "I think all this delay is just to soften us up for the inevitable move to subscription-only."
  3. "Subscriptions are where the industry is headed."
  4. "Is that Backstage Pass thing still a thing?"
  5. "I don't care what they charge for it or how, I started with Cakewalk a long time ago and it will always be the DAW for me."
  6. "If they keep us in doubt any longer I'm going to look into viable alternatives."
  7. "If they make it subscription-only I'm going to look into viable alternatives."
  8. "If they ask too much for it I'm going to look into viable alternatives."
  9. "I predicted this would happen back when BandLab started the free thing. Jokes on you, losers!"
  10. "Audition is the only subscription-only DAW"
  11. "LUNA is a viable alternative."
  12. "REAPER is a viable alternative."
  13. "Studio One is a viable alternative."
  14. "Samplitude is a viable alternative." (just kidding)
  15. "Can I import Cakewalk projects into other DAW's?"
  16. "The great Gibson debacle taught us that you can never be sure of anything."
  17. "I stopped using Cakewalk years ago, this just proves my move was the right one."
  18. "That new nag screen is heinous."
  19. "The new Sonar UI is good."
  20. "The new Sonar UI is bad."
  21. "Is Next going to be included when you pay for Sonar?"
  22. "Whatever they decide to charge, they should honor the lifetime license I paid for."
  23. "The company that sold you the lifetime license no longer exists."
  24. "You should never have fallen for that sketchy lifetime license in the first place. Sux 2 B U."
  25. "It's best to have more than one DAW anyway."
  26. "Cakewalk has been on life support for years, now they're finally being taken off it."
  27. "I'm going to go back to using SONAR, it does everything I want."
  28. "I don't need all that BandLab crap so don't make me subscribe to it."
  29. "Are they going to release the old Cakewalk plug-ins with the new Sonar?"
  30. "They need to fix the bug-ridden unusable nightmare that CbB is before they start charging for it."
  31. "Pro Tools is still the industry standard."
  32. "FL Studio is the most popular."
  33. "Can't we just shut up and be happy that CbB still works?"
  34. "MeldaProduction are clever."
  35. "I am clever."
  36. "The DAW will soon be a thing of the past anyway."
  37. "Waves took a lot of heat when they tried to go subscription-only."
  38. "New DAW users just want to string loops together."
  39. "If the product is free, you are the product."
  40. "I tried another DAW and never looked back."
  41. "They should fulfill my favorite feature request before they start selling it."
  42. "They should go freemium."
  43. "This is a whole lot of jibber-jabber."
  44. "What does REAPER have to do with this?"
  45. "What does MeldaProduction have to do with this?"
  46. "Heath and Starship should just get a room already."
  47. "Will this pointless discussion never end?"
  48. "This topic is going to get locked."
  49. "Why haven't the bakers chimed in yet?"
  50. "You, sir, are a knave, a scoundrel of the lowest order!"
  51. "I'm locking this topic because things got too ugly."

So for example, instead of the following tedious topic/discussion:

Still no word about Sonar's pricing

"Dang, this is weird."

"They should give us a discount if we bought the lifetime license."

"The company who sold you that license no longer exists."

It would look like this:

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Or, more accurately:

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Easy, eh? Instead of trying to beat an idea into (or out of) your forum buddy's thick head by finding different ways to state (or refute) the same concept, just use the number. Repeat it as many times as you feel it needs to be said.

You may notice that many of them are questions with no accompanying answer. Can you guess why that is?

In the unlikely event that someone has never seen one of these topics and would like to read one, we can refer them to one of the 37 previous identical 5-page Amish rakefights on the subject.

In other words,

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Can anyone recommend a good toaster?

The one I have now just won't toast.

Also, I use Audition sometimes.

jibber jabber

prattle

 

blather

 

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5 minutes ago, Jesse Screed said:

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I have nothing to add to this conversation (I left Sonar after being burned by the Sonar for Life), but this thread does remind me of a "Elephant Talk" a King Crimson song in a little loved (except by me) era of King Crimson.

 

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 I use Audition. I still call it Cool Edit because that's what it is.  And I do not pay any subscription to Adobe. 

And no, Audition wasn't always subscription based.  But to upgrade from CE2K to Audition (when they bought out Syntrillium), they wanted Adobe type price and I didn't go for it. I kept using CE2k until Adobe gave out a free "perpetual licenses " for registered users of CE2K (right before going to subscription). BTW, that upgraded CE2K to 64bits!!

So, my wave editor of choice is  Audition. 

 

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