bitflipper Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 On 7/27/2024 at 12:05 PM, Paul Young said: I'm playing a venue tonight where I'm convinced there really is a SUCK knob on the console. It's an expensive PA in a permanent installation with a dedicated FoH operator, so it should sound a lot better than it does. But it seriously sucks, with a seemingly-intentional 5KHz spike that feels like an icepick to the ears. We only play there because they pay well, we get free food, and it's over at 9:00 PM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy1 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 5 minutes ago, bitflipper said: I'm playing a venue tonight where I'm convinced there really is a SUCK knob on the console. It's an expensive PA in a permanent installation with a dedicated FoH operator, so it should sound a lot better than it does. But it seriously sucks, with a seemingly-intentional 5KHz spike that feels like an icepick to the ears. We only play there because they pay well, we get free food, and it's over at 9:00 PM. That's all that matters. When I use any DAW it has a suck button it's usually called record. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutrageProductions Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 5kHz is usually the first band to get damaged with long term FOH mixers. And they are usually the last to ever get their hearing charted at a good audiologist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 13 minutes ago, OutrageProductions said: 5kHz is usually the first band to get damaged with long term FOH mixers. And they are usually the last to ever get their hearing charted at a good audiologist. That is in fact a fact. I have to make a conscious effort to go easy on the 2-5KHz band, because even though it makes everything crisp and bright to my old ears, I remind myself that most people won't hear it the same way I do. But the FoH guy tonight is at least 40 years younger than me. His ears shouldn't be shot yet. Then again the first time I met him I asked how he felt about the PA (because it seemed oversized for the room) his response was "oh, it gets plenty loud!". Priorities, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 (edited) 7 hours ago, OutrageProductions said: get their hearing charted at a good audiologist. I recently went to an audiologist to have my hearing checked. Even though with the work I do (potential for loud noise) they have my hearing checked somewhat regularly, I never had a test like that one. I mean I did the beeps with the trigger before, but she did a much better job. And she found for my age my hearing wasn't as bad as my wife makes it out to be. Some loss around 2-3k in right ear. But more in the same range in my left ear. She was sure I had some type of accident in my left ear. But I don't remember anything. So she said go have it checked to make sure all is OK. In the meantime she said wear these, it will help your wife. Edited August 7 by Grem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 22 minutes ago, Grem said: ... And she found for my age my hearing wasn't as bad as my wife makes it out to be. ... 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 3 hours ago, Grem said: my hearing wasn't as bad as my wife makes it out to be Cheese, man, don't share that result with her! If she finds out you can actually hear just fine, she's gonna start formulating hypotheses to explain why you're unresponsive when she's offering helpful self-improvement advice. In none of those hypotheses do you come out looking better. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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craigb Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Is he auditioning for Great White? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Hey, Craig, your psychedelic animation video got used again last night: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Although that one person on the left looks like it's giving her a headache! 😆 Definitely let me know if you guys ever "tour" down this way. I'm making more now, but still catching up so I don't drive much. Before you retire I want to head up there and see a show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 I snapped that photo between sound check and going onstage, so it was more likely our soundcheck that forced that lady to retreat into her phone. At least she didn't get up and leave, so there's that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 After helping a friend's band a couple of weeks ago (two venues), I must say that's a NICE looking, roomy stage! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 2 hours ago, craigb said: that's a NICE looking, roomy stage! Yep!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 3 hours ago, craigb said: ...that's a NICE looking, roomy stage! Wish I'd taken a photo of last week's stage. It was outdoors, in the Cascade foothills. When I looked up their website there was a photo of what appeared to be a nice, covered stage. But when we got there it wasn't nearly big enough for the five of us, so I set up in front of the stage, on uneven grass. Now, here's my stand: It's called a spider stand and looks like it might not be stable on an uneven surface. Surprisingly, it is. German engineering. But every time I set those heavy keyboards on it I wish it was 4x4s rather than spider legs holding it all up. Because the stage was so small, we had to place monitors off to the sides, on sticks raised up to about 7'. A gust of wind rocked a canopy next to them, which pushed a monitor over. Luckily, its momentum was somewhat slowed by crashing into my mixer on the way down, before settling atop both keyboards. Even with my heart temporarily stopped , I couldn't help mentally totaling up the replacement costs while watching it all in slow motion. Incredibly, there was no serious damage. I still don't quite know how. That's a 35lb speaker falling 7 feet onto my little Yamaha DM3, then on to the Kronos and finally the Montage. The mixer wasn't even dented. I remain a fan of Yamaha mixers! Both keyboards were askew but didn't fall. So good job K&M. I will stop saying your products are overpriced. Apologies to Notes for straying off-topic. In my defense, I am still traumatized by this near-tragedy and who better to commiserate with than all of you guys? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Was it that automated mixer you just recently purchased? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Well, you were due a break Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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