Larry Shelby Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) I think, at this point, it's safe to say that Spitfire Labs is dead.... May it rest in pieces... Edited January 29 by cclarry 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim137 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Explain Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satya Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 The Crow Hill Company is the new LABS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satya Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, jim137 said: Explain Please. means this https://labs.spitfireaudio.com/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, jim137 said: Explain Please. Christian was the one who was making the "Labs" releases for Spitfire, and he is no longer with the Company, and has started his own, The Crow Hill Company. There hasn't been a Labs release in about 8 months, so I think that it's pretty safe to say that Spitfire Labs is DEAD 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esteban Villanova Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Hopefully Crow Hill will keep adding stuff. The things that are available are pretty top notch, especially the piano! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 38 minutes ago, cclarry said: Christian was the one who was making the "Labs" releases for Spitfire, and he is no longer with the Company, and has started his own, The Crow Hill Company. There hasn't been a Labs release in about 8 months, so I think that it's pretty safe to say that Spitfire Labs is DEAD Oops, better get the remaining ones before they pull the plug. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satya Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 hope this thead dont get silenced like previous thread when christian topic was brought up 1 hour ago, cclarry said: Christian was the one who was making the "Labs" releases for Spitfire, and he is no longer with the Company, and has started his own, The Crow Hill Company. There hasn't been a Labs release in about 8 months, so I think that it's pretty safe to say that Spitfire Labs is DEAD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracingArcs Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Have to agree with Larry on this. I would suggest getting any LABS you want soon. Just in case. And I'm afraid that Pianobook may also be a victim as well. I was in Pianobook from the start. And made a demo every month for them. However it has stagnated this last year also. And despite promises about new faces and plans. Nothing has happened. There have been long gaps between uploads of new instruments. What has been posted has been somewhat limited compared to previous releases (IMO). if you look at the demos of the month which used to be refreshed every month. They are currently showing ones from June last year (2023). Spitfire is obviously paying for hosting etc. And I'm unsure they have the will or pockets to keep paying for all the freebies. And from a business standpoint it may no longer be viable for them. And it was after all a CH project. And they may want to move on. I hope I'm wrong. But it has gone on too long now to see any other route. 3 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esteban Villanova Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 CH was the soul of the company. The remaining guy(s) don’t have the vision he had. Have they even created a new library that’s at the same level of Albion or BBCSO? All I’ve seen are pianos and smaller collections. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I have all I want or possibly will ever need from Spitfire Labs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirean Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Guess I'll download them just in case. On that note. I hate that the Spitfire software doesn't seem to have a queue for the downloads. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwise Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 LABS used to occupy gigabytes of drive space, although I never used them. Not once since they came out. In fact, they were so uninspiring, I never felt like shopping for Spitfire libraries. I hear good things about Albion, but then again, symphonic music is way above my league. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavlovsCat Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 7 hours ago, TracingArcs said: Have to agree with Larry on this. I would suggest getting any LABS you want soon. Just in case. And I'm afraid that Pianobook may also be a victim as well. I was in Pianobook from the start. And made a demo every month for them. However it has stagnated this last year also. And despite promises about new faces and plans. Nothing has happened. There have been long gaps between uploads of new instruments. What has been posted has been somewhat limited compared to previous releases (IMO). if you look at the demos of the month which used to be refreshed every month. They are currently showing ones from June last year (2023). Spitfire is obviously paying for hosting etc. And I'm unsure they have the will or pockets to keep paying for all the freebies. And from a business standpoint it may no longer be viable for them. And it was after all a CH project. And they may want to move on. I hope I'm wrong. But it has gone on too long now to see any other route. Yeah, I was just about to mention how Pianobook has basically become stagnant since Christian's departure. I don't think it necessarily means these programs are dead, Spitfire may just be struggling to find the right person to manage them. Clearly, Christian was the champion of both Pianobook and Labs and perhaps his business partner wasn't completely sold on them (as neither produces a net profit, some business people can too easily write such ventures off). But I wouldn't necessarily jump to the conclusion that this efforts are dead, it may be a struggle to finding someone with the right talents to manage them. I'd bet that Henson put a lot of effort into both and his skills as an entrepreneur and multitasker aren't easily replaced. Christian did introduce a new manager at Pianobook prior to his departure. Does anyone know if she's still actively managing Pianobook? I know that there haven't been any really stellar releases on the site in a long time (just my opinion) so you can attribute that to the community, but a mature community doesn't manage itself. I think Christian's energy and involvement inspired much of the creative activity at Pianobook and when he left, and the way he left, had a major impact (reflected in less enthusiasm and activity) for the Pianobook community-- regardless of one's opinion on the circumstances around Christian's departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 At some point any company that generates free content has to justify the cost of generating / maintaining that content to its stakeholders. Also I would imagine that over time it gets harder to generate new quality content that doesn't compete with paid product - what's next another piano? hobos singing a cappella in the rain? another acoustic instrument / synth amalgam, bug squashing percussion (varied by shoe or boot types), or ? For Christian's new company free libraries bring much needed attention maybe not so much for Spitfire... I hope that Spitfire at some point revives product generation of Labs stuff. But I must admit that while I always checkout and collect their offerings I don't use it (at least not yet) - but it does keep Spitfire on my radar and maybe that kind of interest is enough for them to keep it going. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yan Filiatrault Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I checked and counted around 60 free Labs libraries. Maybe it’s enough free stuff to showcase Spitfire. How many more do they really need to attract paying customers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, TheSteven said: hobos singing a cappella in the rain? You just inspired me to start a new band. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 17 minutes ago, Bapu said: You just inspired me to start a new band. Count me in. Not for the singing, mind you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Yan Filiatrault said: I checked and counted around 60 free Labs libraries. Maybe it’s enough free stuff to showcase Spitfire. How many more do they really need to attract paying customers? This. While I'd like to keep seeing more, the reality is there is a lot there as long as they don't kill off the platform. It remains an impressive free collection that could be a gateway to the brand. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 hours ago, Fleer said: Count me in. Not for the singing, mind you. We'll call you hobo #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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