Glenn Stanton Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) final 4th round mix. updated some instruments (drums and solo), lyrics and vocals. ----------------------------------------- Lyrics ----------------------------------------- was i reticent was i hesitant not at all was i innocent were there elephants not so sure was i melancholy wasn't satisfied not at all when the music played we would dance to a separate song wasn't reticent didn't hesitate maybe innocent 'cause those elephants hide in sight never was right thus cause grief when all is belief to be real now you cryin' 'cause you lyin' now you know the feel is real was i reticent was i hesitant not at all was i innocent were there elephants not so sure was i melancholy wasn't satisfied not at all then the music stopped we would cry go our separate ways was i innocent were there elephants not so sure then the music stopped we would cry go our separate ways Edited November 18, 2023 by Glenn Stanton added lyrics 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Sounds like a good start, will keep the furry ears on the look for the finished product. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack c. Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 make the kick less busy.jack c 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSband Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Very pretty song, the vocals are beautiful. The guitar tones are kind of piercing though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stanton Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 yeah, next mix i'm redoing them a bit because they are a bit harsh in places. but some piercing is necessary ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Carzola Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Love it. I love your music. Idea...Have you ever tried replacing those synth strings with organs? I think they would fulfill the function of gluing the arrangement while sounding more natural. It's just a thought though. I think the arrangement is ready so you can tame the harsh spots you notice in the mastering. Great job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadfoot Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Nice job on this Glenn. The solo guitar was very tasteful. The mix sounds good to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stanton Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 On 11/18/2023 at 7:15 PM, Miguel Carzola said: Love it. I love your music. Idea...Have you ever tried replacing those synth strings with organs? I think they would fulfill the function of gluing the arrangement while sounding more natural. It's just a thought though. I think the arrangement is ready so you can tame the harsh spots you notice in the mastering. Great job yeah some songs i pad using an B3/C3 organ VI, some i use the strings. one problem i'm trying to solve - a good cello VI which isn't loaded with the bow scraping etc. yes, a realistic cello with proper set of articulations, but most of them i've demo'd have very loud scraping, whereas when a friend plays her cello (and maybe it's her skills as a trained first chair) the bow sounds are much much less a part of the sound - maybe it's simply the way they capture the sound or enhanced to make it more "real". but that is one pursuit i'm working on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Interesting blend of styles. What a ride. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornpdx Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Sounds good. So are those synthesized voices? I think you were dabbling in Synthesizer V a while ago. I like the innocent/elephants rhyme. -Bjorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stanton Posted November 23, 2023 Author Share Posted November 23, 2023 20 hours ago, bjornpdx said: So are those synthesized voices? I think you were dabbling in Synthesizer V a while ago. yes. i'm getting them to "sing" better and better each time. mostly because instead of "micro managing", i let them do their thing and only tweak on parts that need it (phonomes etc) and then use the AI takes (emotive, dynamics, pitch) to see if there are better "performances". so using this process: note length, timing, and approximate pitches, next melody assignment, some tweaking of timing and other bits, and finally any takes to see if there are improvements to be had. not much (imho) of training a singer to take on a new song they have not heard before and no reference track per se. so it's kind of cool, and of course those voices are way better than mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bajan Blue Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 those synth voices sound very good to me - i see a time very soon when you simply will not be able to tell the difference!! Great job Nigel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stanton Posted November 24, 2023 Author Share Posted November 24, 2023 9 hours ago, Bajan Blue said: those synth voices sound very good to me - i see a time very soon when you simply will not be able to tell the difference!! if i spent more time with the envelopes that control aspects it would be much better. there are still some things i'd like to see - the addition of "growl" into the vocals. the parameters for them often have various options for intensity, but still not a definitive "roughness" that would be handy. also even the English libraries (mainly what i'm using) still require some phonomes tweaking or even wholly different words to get it right (for example, "melancholy" required me to use "melon collie" to get it close... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noynekker Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Really enjoyed this one a lot, just sounded very pro all the way through, and there's some unexpectedly great guitar here . . . really like how you fit it in between the vocals. Regardless of the AI aspects, the end result is a great listen . . . well written and conceived I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stanton Posted November 29, 2023 Author Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) the interesting thing about the Synth V - if you imagine yourself as a producer training a singer - here are the notes and a reference track, then tweak to the "singers" voice, it is very like coaching someone on a song but letting them do their thing. in the vocal libraries i'm using, they're created from real singers so they're not really synthetic. the singers who provided their voices had to sing the "phonomes" which is what the engine uses to assemble the vocals. i'm actually impressed someone had the vocal chops to sing partial words and sustain sounds (for editing) (and like thousands of them) and in one of my libraries, in 3 wholly different languages... Edited November 29, 2023 by Glenn Stanton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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