MIDI latency

[tim E]

There's a latency happening when using the Cakewalk DAW... maybe 200 ms... Doesn't happen with the Pro Tools First DAW... Using same computer same interface... Running a MIDI keyboard into Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 into a Dell 3ghz, 8 gig ram... I think the all of the drivers are up to date... Tried messing with buffer times etc., in the preferences...

I know that audio and MIDI latency are different problems... Looked through a bunch of the Forum pages and searched "MIDI latency" but came up with nothing here.

If anyone has insight and solutions I will be grateful.  Thanks ~Tim

[Promidi]

Are you using ASIO mode?

[tim E]

Not sure. Where do I find that? There is a Driver Mode drop-down that only has MME as an option. Is there another way to find out or change to ASIO mode?

[Promidi]

1 hour ago, tim E said:

Not sure. Where do I find that? There is a Driver Mode drop-down that only has MME as an option. Is there another way to find out or change to ASIO mode?

Preferences | Audio | Devices and settings - Driver mode

[tim E]

9 hours ago, Promidi said:

Preferences | Audio | Devices and settings - Driver mode

Found it in Preferences | Audio | Playback and Recording.  Changed to ASIO ... got rid of the latency... but now it sustains notes.  Just holds onto them until I exit the song.

[tim E]

I did some searching in the forum and found helpful info here...

https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/5573-stuck-midi-notes-still-a-problem/

In - Prefs, MIDI - Playback and Recording / Playback, I reset the Buffers to 250 ms... seemed to have fixed the problem.

But no... still getting a stuck note. Any other fix info would be most helpful.

Tim

Edited August 30, 2019 by Timhisattva

[Promidi]

4 hours ago, Timhisattva said:

I did some searching in the forum and found helpful info here...

https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/5573-stuck-midi-notes-still-a-problem/

In - Prefs, MIDI - Playback and Recording / Playback, I reset the Buffers to 250 ms... seemed to have fixed the problem.

But no... still getting a stuck note. Any other fix info would be most helpful.

Tim

Try increasing it further....  I have mine at 750

[user905133]

5 hours ago, Timhisattva said:

I did some searching in the forum and found helpful info here...

https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/5573-stuck-midi-notes-still-a-problem/

In - Prefs, MIDI - Playback and Recording / Playback, I reset the Buffers to 250 ms... seemed to have fixed the problem.

But no... still getting a stuck note. Any other fix info would be most helpful.

Tim

One source of stuck notes might be the midi data itself--e.g., sustain on with a missing sustain off, note durations that cause the note to hang, etc.  If its still a problem and you haven't looked yet, possibly check Views > Event List.

[tim E]

1 hour ago, Promidi said:

Try increasing it further....  I have mine at 750

Tried 750... problem persists. I'll keep trying different buffer settings.

I've noticed that when in ASIO mode, I can't adjust the latency, and I'm now getting some "scratchiness" distortion during playback.

Seems that --- One thing... leads to another...

[tim E]

21 minutes ago, MusicMan11712 (aka Dr. Steve) said:

One source of stuck notes might be the midi data itself--e.g., sustain on with a missing sustain off, note durations that cause the note to hang, etc.  If its still a problem and you haven't looked yet, possibly check Views > Event List.

I'm getting the stuck note when I'm just testing the new settings. Manually playing the midi keyboard...  Doesn't ,,, or hasn't yet produced stuck notes during playback.

[scook]

 

10 minutes ago, Timhisattva said:

I've noticed that when in ASIO mode, I can't adjust the latency, and I'm now getting some "scratchiness" distortion during playback.

ASIO buffer settings must be made with the software supplied by the audio interface manufacturer.

[user905133]

Different problem, then.  In that case, recording the note data and looking at the midi events won't show anything useful. Thanks for clarifying.

[Promidi]

13 minutes ago, Timhisattva said:

I'm getting the stuck note when I'm just testing the new settings. Manually playing the midi keyboard...  Doesn't ,,, or hasn't yet produced stuck notes during playback.

Then I think it's more to do with with your keyboard is actually transmitting.  What model MIDI controller is it? 

I have never had this issue with my PCR-800 and a Focusrite 2i2 and manually playing VSTis

[tim E]

8 minutes ago, scook said:

 

ASIO buffer settings must be made with the software supplied by the audio interface manufacturer.

So... I have to find a Focusrite software interface page... somewhere... This is getting to be some fun...

[tim E]

2 minutes ago, Promidi said:

Then I think it's more to do with with your keyboard is actually transmitting.  What model MIDI controller is it? 

I have never had this issue with my PCR-800 and a Focusrite 2i2 and manually playing VSTis

It's a Quick Shot, Midi Composer... I suppose I could switch over to the Ensoniq EPS (sigh) ...

As I said in the OP I have zero problem with the MIDI when using the Pro Tools First DAW...  The problem somehow seems to live in Cakewalk.

[msmcleod]

What MIDI driver mode are you using within Cakewalk ?

I always use my Focusrite in MME mode rather than UWP:

Note:  You'll have to close down any project to change this.

[tim E]

9 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

What MIDI driver mode are you using within Cakewalk ?

I always use my Focusrite in MME mode rather than UWP:

Note:  You'll have to close down any project to change this.

It's in MME... and that's the ONLY option available in the drop-down.

[scook]

UWP requires Win10 older OSes only support MME

[tim E]

15 minutes ago, scook said:

UWP requires Win10 older OSes only support MME

right

[tim E]

Finally got it running right.  Thanks guys for the help.