tim E Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 There's a latency happening when using the Cakewalk DAW... maybe 200 ms... Doesn't happen with the Pro Tools First DAW... Using same computer same interface... Running a MIDI keyboard into Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 into a Dell 3ghz, 8 gig ram... I think the all of the drivers are up to date... Tried messing with buffer times etc., in the preferences... I know that audio and MIDI latency are different problems... Looked through a bunch of the Forum pages and searched "MIDI latency" but came up with nothing here. If anyone has insight and solutions I will be grateful. Thanks ~Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Are you using ASIO mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim E Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 Not sure. Where do I find that? There is a Driver Mode drop-down that only has MME as an option. Is there another way to find out or change to ASIO mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, tim E said: Not sure. Where do I find that? There is a Driver Mode drop-down that only has MME as an option. Is there another way to find out or change to ASIO mode? Preferences | Audio | Devices and settings - Driver mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim E Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Promidi said: Preferences | Audio | Devices and settings - Driver mode Found it in Preferences | Audio | Playback and Recording. Changed to ASIO ... got rid of the latency... but now it sustains notes. Just holds onto them until I exit the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim E Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) I did some searching in the forum and found helpful info here... https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/5573-stuck-midi-notes-still-a-problem/ In - Prefs, MIDI - Playback and Recording / Playback, I reset the Buffers to 250 ms... seemed to have fixed the problem. But no... still getting a stuck note. Any other fix info would be most helpful. Tim Edited August 30, 2019 by Timhisattva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Timhisattva said: I did some searching in the forum and found helpful info here... https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/5573-stuck-midi-notes-still-a-problem/ In - Prefs, MIDI - Playback and Recording / Playback, I reset the Buffers to 250 ms... seemed to have fixed the problem. But no... still getting a stuck note. Any other fix info would be most helpful. Tim Try increasing it further.... I have mine at 750 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user 905133 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Timhisattva said: I did some searching in the forum and found helpful info here... https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/5573-stuck-midi-notes-still-a-problem/ In - Prefs, MIDI - Playback and Recording / Playback, I reset the Buffers to 250 ms... seemed to have fixed the problem. But no... still getting a stuck note. Any other fix info would be most helpful. Tim One source of stuck notes might be the midi data itself--e.g., sustain on with a missing sustain off, note durations that cause the note to hang, etc. If its still a problem and you haven't looked yet, possibly check Views > Event List. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim E Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Promidi said: Try increasing it further.... I have mine at 750 Tried 750... problem persists. I'll keep trying different buffer settings. I've noticed that when in ASIO mode, I can't adjust the latency, and I'm now getting some "scratchiness" distortion during playback. Seems that --- One thing... leads to another... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim E Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, MusicMan11712 (aka Dr. Steve) said: One source of stuck notes might be the midi data itself--e.g., sustain on with a missing sustain off, note durations that cause the note to hang, etc. If its still a problem and you haven't looked yet, possibly check Views > Event List. I'm getting the stuck note when I'm just testing the new settings. Manually playing the midi keyboard... Doesn't ,,, or hasn't yet produced stuck notes during playback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Timhisattva said: I've noticed that when in ASIO mode, I can't adjust the latency, and I'm now getting some "scratchiness" distortion during playback. ASIO buffer settings must be made with the software supplied by the audio interface manufacturer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user 905133 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Different problem, then. In that case, recording the note data and looking at the midi events won't show anything useful. Thanks for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, Timhisattva said: I'm getting the stuck note when I'm just testing the new settings. Manually playing the midi keyboard... Doesn't ,,, or hasn't yet produced stuck notes during playback. Then I think it's more to do with with your keyboard is actually transmitting. What model MIDI controller is it? I have never had this issue with my PCR-800 and a Focusrite 2i2 and manually playing VSTis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim E Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, scook said: ASIO buffer settings must be made with the software supplied by the audio interface manufacturer. So... I have to find a Focusrite software interface page... somewhere... This is getting to be some fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim E Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Promidi said: Then I think it's more to do with with your keyboard is actually transmitting. What model MIDI controller is it? I have never had this issue with my PCR-800 and a Focusrite 2i2 and manually playing VSTis It's a Quick Shot, Midi Composer... I suppose I could switch over to the Ensoniq EPS (sigh) ... As I said in the OP I have zero problem with the MIDI when using the Pro Tools First DAW... The problem somehow seems to live in Cakewalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 What MIDI driver mode are you using within Cakewalk ? I always use my Focusrite in MME mode rather than UWP: Note: You'll have to close down any project to change this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim E Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, msmcleod said: What MIDI driver mode are you using within Cakewalk ? I always use my Focusrite in MME mode rather than UWP: Note: You'll have to close down any project to change this. It's in MME... and that's the ONLY option available in the drop-down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 UWP requires Win10 older OSes only support MME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim E Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, scook said: UWP requires Win10 older OSes only support MME right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim E Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 Finally got it running right. Thanks guys for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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