"Lost Dream", final mix

[bats brew]

https://soundcloud.com/bats-brew/lost-dream-mix2

this is a mastered file. it's not very hot,
comes in about DR10, -11 LUFS.

first one i've mastered out of the 10 songs total on the upcoming album.

i'm toying with some plugs i don't normally use,
figured, why not.

maybe it's hard to judge 'mixes' with 'mastered' files,
i dont know,
ideas?

i can always post JUST the mix.

this is my 'floyd' influence showing.
 

[Grem]

Definitely hear the Floyd in there. I was trying to think of a way to describe the feeling I was getting from this. Space-trippy was what I came up with!! Really good organ sound.

Started listening to it on the speakers here at work, but after listening twice, I wasn't sure t was translating right. So I took out my Bose headphones and that made a difference! I could see the sound stage and hear everything much more clearly and balanced.

Good song I like it. Nice mix and good job on the master.

[Øyvind Skald]

 I really hear Dream Theaters - Falling into Infinity album. But that is just that it could fit into it. Its is not like a copy of any of that songs. But this is prog rock at top shelf. So much space in the music. You don't fil upp every second and that makes it not stressing but relaxing to listen to. And I couldn't hear anytnig wrong with the master, but I must say, I have hearing loss (too much Hi-Gain guitars). 

A comment to the hot signal. Youtube do adjust and turn down levels, Spotify do the same. Every platform adjust the levels to fit their standard. So the Loudness War is ded in but nobody knows yet.

 

Edited August 28, 2019 by ØSkald

[Wookiee]

Overtones of an early Gilmour solo album is what the furry ears are hearing, works well here @batsbrew 

 

[daryl1968]

brilliant Bats - everything is exactly where it should be.

 

[bats brew]

15 hours ago, Grem said:

Definitely hear the Floyd in there. I was trying to think of a way to describe the feeling I was getting from this. Space-trippy was what I came up with!! Really good organ sound.

Started listening to it on the speakers here at work, but after listening twice, I wasn't sure t was translating right. So I took out my Bose headphones and that made a difference! I could see the sound stage and hear everything much more clearly and balanced.

Good song I like it. Nice mix and good job on the master.

hey grem!

i've got two keyboard tracks playing together,

i think one is a wurlitzer, and the other is some synth i tweaked from scratch.

i'm just getting back into keyboards, so i've got a lot of experimenting to do.

the master is just a trial run,

i'll get it more dialed in when i go after all 10 songs at once.

thanks for listening

[bats brew]

15 hours ago, ØSkald said:

 I really hear Dream Theaters - Falling into Infinity album. But that is just that it could fit into it. Its is not like a copy of any of that songs. But this is prog rock at top shelf. So much space in the music. You don't fil upp every second and that makes it not stressing but relaxing to listen to. And I couldn't hear anytnig wrong with the master, but I must say, I have hearing loss (too much Hi-Gain guitars). 

A comment to the hot signal. Youtube do adjust and turn down levels, Spotify do the same. Every platform adjust the levels to fit their standard. So the Loudness War is ded in but nobody knows yet.

 

hey oskald, appreciate the review!

i've always liked DT, since the first album....

but i kinda think of this is not really prog,

just some spacey blues, really.

 

so, when i mix, i mix into a master bus at K-18.

then, out of the master bus, i got to the MAINS, and i output there with a -2db true peak, and an RMS of about -14 LUFS.

that becomes my 'high def' file, at 24 bit/48khz.

if anyone ever wants a high def file, that's what they get.

 

then when i master for CD, for my own music, i target a DR of no more than 10. typically 11.

that is very conservative.

if i random poll the most recent pro cd releases, 

here's what i get:  DR= DYNAMIC RANGE

Santana Africa Speaks 2019   DR 04

Miley Cyrus She Is Coming [HDTracks 44.1/24]  2019   DR 05

Thom Yorke ANIMA  2019   DR 05

Weezer  Weezer (teal album)  2019   DR 05

Megadeth  United Abominations (2019 - Remaster)  2019    DR 05

Black Mountain  Destroyer 2019     DR 05

Cardi B   Invasion Of Privacy  2019     DR 05

 

It goes on and on and on.....ad nauseum

 

DR 05 seems to be the current target.

 

HALF the dynamic range of my masters.

half.

LOL

 

i think i'm ok in the loudness wars.

 

 

Edited August 28, 2019 by batsbrew

[AndyB01]

I could listen to stuff like this all day long - I agree more bluesy than prog but there are shades of Gilmour for me too.

A very enjoyable five minutes

Andy

[garybrun]

I listened to it and is a bluesy track for me..
Mix translates well on my focals...
There are a lot of frequencies going on in there... which I am sure was hard to fix.

Its strange but never really listened to Pink Floyd and dont understand personally what everyone sees in it.
Can someone care to illuminate me what everyone raves about?
(Serious question as I really don't get it)

Edited August 30, 2019 by garybrun

[bats brew]

On 8/28/2019 at 6:48 AM, Wookiee said:

Overtones of an early Gilmour solo album is what the furry ears are hearing, works well here @batsbrew 

 

hey wookiee! you know, i wonder, if ANYONE uses stratty tones, a vibe, and a fuzz, and plays simple blues riffs, if they would sound like gilmour.......!!!

NOPE!

heheheh

 

i loved his 1st solo album, i had it on vinyl and cassette.

 

On 8/28/2019 at 8:47 AM, daryl1968 said:

brilliant Bats - everything is exactly where it should be.

 

hi daryl, thanks so much for listening to this one,

and thanks for the comments.

[bats brew]

On 8/29/2019 at 6:06 AM, Andrew Ball said:

I could listen to stuff like this all day long - I agree more bluesy than prog but there are shades of Gilmour for me too.

A very enjoyable five minutes

Andy

hi andy!

glad you dig this one, thanks for the comments.

[bats brew]

On 8/29/2019 at 9:37 AM, garybrun said:

I listened to it and is a bluesy tack for me..
Mix translates well on my focals...
There are a lot of frequencies going on in there... which I am sure was hard to fix.

Its strange but never really listened to Pink Floyd and dont understand personally what everyone sees in it.
Can someone care to illuminate me what everyone raves about?
(Serious question as I really don't get it)

thanks gary,

for listening and commenting.

yep, a LOT of frequencies! LOL, maybe too many...

i do a lot of subtractive eq with parametric eq and linear phase eq (depending on the source)

this seems to be the best way to even certain tracks out.

 

now, the pink floyd thing,

i don't know what to say. i came to pink floyd via dark side of the moon,

which from beginning to end, is just a perfect album.

then i went all the way back in their catalog (they started in '65), then stayed with them up thru the wall...

and they have a certain vibe, a certain chemistry, that is VERY hard to find in other bands of the time,

and impossible to find now.

but this is all subjective to a point:

They ARE one of the most commercially successful and influential groups in popular music history,

and by 2013, they had sold more than 250 million records worldwide, with The Dark Side of the Moon and The Wall two of the best-selling albums of all time.

 

so, there's that. ?

Edited August 30, 2019 by batsbrew