Paul Bush Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) Hi Chaps , so I deleted that badly named ``match made in heaven´´ re named it ``A Fool`s Love´´ with lots of changes and aslo managed to find the green button on bandlab so it should play , any tips, idea`s would be more than welcome cheers paul https://www.bandlab.com/user7005896328090268/a-fools-love-project-wave-59aebbe1?revId=7a1004f4-7717-ee11-907c-000d3a41ed52 so I just checked my bandlab and there it is again the ``private message´´...this is getting to be very anonying drop me a line if the link doesnt work . never had this trouble with soundcloud Edited June 30, 2023 by Paul Bush 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhonoBrainer Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 loved the groove, loved the topic! Your vocal does it credit, and nice bgv's as well! My mix ears picked out the snare, I think it could be louder and have a higher tamber generally, perhaps whatever snare reverb is going on could have that reverb return cut away more of thelow-end reverb? It's inviting just a bit of mix mud. Timing issues for the bass? Listen closely at :59 and at 1:25, I think the bass guitar is coming in just a bit early? That examination might help other parts of your song as well. Your vocals really do carry it, though, and when the groove is in sync, it's working big time. cheers, -Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack c. Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 lots of energy nice all around song.drums need to be tightened up especially fill-ins. so I just checked my bandlab and there it is again the ``private message´´...this is getting to be very anonying drop me a line if the link doesnt work . never had this trouble with soundcloud i have trouble with bandlab and soundcloud i wonder if they really know what their doing??????????????????jack c 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl1968 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Hi Paul. Really enjoyed the song. It reminded me of something Squeeze would have written. I heard timing issues here and there but as Tom says your vocal carries it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornpdx Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Paul, I know in the past you've had some timing issues with your songs, but I didn't really notice anything off in this one. As others have mentioned your voice is perfect for the genre. -Bjorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bush Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) Hi Bjorn , thanks for the nice comments , I now know what Ive been doing wrong with all of my previous songs , Ive been using Ezdrummer and when recording I havent had the drums completely dry no overhead , or room ambience etc so they get lost in the wash (schoolboy error) this time everything was turned off making the drums really ``in yer face´´ direct ,making it easy to keep time ,then I added effects later , Edited July 2, 2023 by Paul Bush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bush Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 20 hours ago, daryl1968 said: Hi Paul. Really enjoyed the song. It reminded me of something Squeeze would have written. I heard timing issues here and there but as Tom says your vocal carries it. Hi Daryl, cheers, This song started it`s life out way too complicated and trying to be over clever so after three weeks .. I dumbed it down to three chords, fell over the easy riff and well the rest was easy , sometimes I try to write something completely different and it ends up a jumbled mess , I had a lot of fun with this one double tracking all the guitars (my self built Telecaster) and using just reverb and compressors . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bush Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 On 6/30/2023 at 11:16 PM, PhonoBrainer said: loved the groove, loved the topic! Your vocal does it credit, and nice bgv's as well! My mix ears picked out the snare, I think it could be louder and have a higher tamber generally, perhaps whatever snare reverb is going on could have that reverb return cut away more of thelow-end reverb? It's inviting just a bit of mix mud. Timing issues for the bass? Listen closely at :59 and at 1:25, I think the bass guitar is coming in just a bit early? That examination might help other parts of your song as well. Your vocals really do carry it, though, and when the groove is in sync, it's working big time. cheers, -Tom Hi Tom thanks for some really good advice , It makes it so much easyer to rectify when one states where ( time ) some of the faults lie , cheers paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglandBross Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 sounds like '80 years , great !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treesha Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Cool song, thought of John Mellencamp Beach Boys and something else I couldn’t quite identify. An enjoyable listen, good job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noynekker Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Another edgy and upbeat rocker Paul ! . . . enjoyed it, as always, vocals and background vocals captured very well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bajan Blue Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Hi Paul - cool track, I think Daryl is right, sounds like a squeeze track or even Elvis Costello!! Great job and I didn't really notice anything too far off to cause me concern Cool Nigel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn Wilson Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Terrific song, Paul, you nailed this! I love your voice in this, which carries the message very well. I always feel right at home when listening to your songs - like comfort food. Keep it up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry T. Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) I'll say it again, you write great songs. This is another one. The bass and drum timing issues are minimal imho. I can offer the solution I found when recording my VST bass and drum parts using piano roll view. The timing will be slightly off unless you Magnify the piano roll view to Maximum. At this view you will see that the placement of the bass and drum midi notes that appeared to be spot on timing ISN'T. Reposition them correctly, slight timing issue fixed. Cheers???? EDIT: make sure your piano roll view resolution is set to At Least 1/32 notes....if set lower you may still have timing issues depending on how fast the midi notes need to be played properly....heck, you may want to go to 1/64 notes but that's a lot of midi to edit....good luck!!!! Edited July 3, 2023 by Larry T. improvement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bush Posted July 3, 2023 Author Share Posted July 3, 2023 Thankyou guys , for so much encouragment and kind words , squeeze, elvis costello ,john mellecamp , wow ! I´m particually pleased with this one as it really wasnt going anywhere at first , but as soon as I got the guitar sound right it sort of fell into place it`s just so a basic song, all instruments are analogue except the drums so its down to just playing it the best I can ..vocals were not too high so it was easy to sing ,it was a lot of fun to record . I´ll be taking all the tips on board and rectifying them before the master ..although I wont be fiddling about too much with mastering effects one can go too far . thanks once again Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy j Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Great song. It has all the elements of a great uptempo pop song. I can't remember the original post but this one sounds great --- lyrics, instrumentation (ya -- the drums sound OK to my chronologically challenged ears, and your vocals are very good indeed! Well done!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry T. Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) On 7/3/2023 at 10:41 AM, Larry T. said: The bass and drum timing issues are minimal imho. I can offer the solution I found when recording my VST bass and drum parts using piano roll view. The timing will be slightly off unless you Magnify the piano roll view to Maximum. At this view you will see that the placement of the bass and drum midi notes that appeared to be spot on timing ISN'T. Reposition them correctly, slight timing issue fixed. Cheers???? EDIT: make sure your piano roll view resolution is set to At Least 1/32 notes....if set lower you may still have timing issues depending on how fast the midi notes need to be played properly....heck, you may want to go to 1/64 notes but that's a lot of midi to edit....good luck!!!! EDIT#2: A few more things you may want to try to get the timing sounding good: 1. First off record two tracks: 1. an acoustic guitar basic track to the metronome and, 2. the VST drums that fit with whatever beat per minute time you decide is correct. You can mute these two tracks later but they will be your timing reference so as to keep all instruments on the same page. 2. Make sure Snap is enabled and set to at least 1/32. 3. I use SI Drums and they will play to whatever BPM that you have specified. hope this helps???? Edited July 6, 2023 by Larry T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bush Posted July 4, 2023 Author Share Posted July 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Larry T. said: EDIT#2: A few more things you may want to try to get the timing sounding good: 1. First off record two tracks: 1. an acoustic guitar basic track to the metronome and, 2. the VST drums that seem to fit with whatever beat per minute time you decide is correct. You can mute these two tracks later but they will be your timing reference so as to keep all instruments on the same page. 2. Make sure Snap is enabled and set to at least 1/32. 3. I use SI Drums and they will play to whatever BPM that you have specified. hope this helps???? Thanks Larry , lots to consider there, I use ezdrums they`ve got super sounds but in the mixer the toms are not seperate they`re in stereo .not really good , i think with my next song , I´m going to turn all effects off the drums (like this one)so that they are bone dry and very distinct much easyer to hear , its just a case of finding a system to work with and keeping to it cheers paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Pure Pop Phrom Paul! Excellent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwnicholson78 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 A really well done tune. The vocals and harmonies especially sound great. Jeff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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