Craig Anderton Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Teksonik said: One should always be concerned about the future of freeware.......sport. ? Or any software: Master Tracks Pro, Studio Vision, MOTU FreeStyle, Temper, Project 5, Bars and Pipes, etc. Software has a lifecycle, like everything else. Personally, I'm not worried about Cakewalk. I'm sure Meng knows that if he wanted to make money with Cakewalk by selling add-ons, VIs, etc. in a Cakewalk store, he could. The fact that he doesn't perhaps implies that making bucks from Cakewalk is not a priority. There are plenty of reasons to keep it going, and few reasons to shut it down. [No inside knowledge, just how it looks to me.] 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Outside the US, there isn't the same fetish about every product having to be xx% profitable or it gets killed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB9 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Craig Anderton said: Or any software: Master Tracks Pro, Studio Vision, MOTU FreeStyle, Temper, Project 5, Bars and Pipes, etc. Software has a lifecycle, like everything else. Personally, I'm not worried about Cakewalk. I'm sure Meng knows that if he wanted to make money with Cakewalk by selling add-ons, VIs, etc. in a Cakewalk store, he could. The fact that he doesn't perhaps implies that making bucks from Cakewalk is not a priority. There are plenty of reasons to keep it going, and few reasons to shut it down. [No inside knowledge, just how it looks to me.] I actually had to use Master Tracks Pro quite a bit recently to convert some of my old Master Track Pro midi files (mts) to more standard midi files (mid). Fortunately, actually I started using Cakewalk (mid 90s), every Cakewalk file I have ever done, including bundles, still opens in Cakewalk by Bandlab. We should all be grateful to Meng Ru Kuok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakko Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Byron Dickens said: Outside the US, there isn't the same fetish about every product having to be xx% profitable or it gets killed. 1. The owner is a multi millionaire. 2. It has surely been bought to at least partly promote the Bandlab service. Also, why is "profit" always the term being used? (Always sounds like people confuse the audio software industry with the stock market...) Especially in this small industry, it's not like there's loads of multinational billions worth corporations. All the companies are mid tier to small business, and most are run by enthusiasts or musicians. If that counts for you. As long as there's still money being used in this world, companies need to make sure to bring food to the table. Edited February 9, 2023 by chakko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I guess this one is major update still needs some time in the oven 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakko Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 14 hours ago, Lord Tim said: It's amazing how often this topic comes up here. Most companies release a new version every year or so, and maybe 2 or 3 updates to that version in the interim, barely a peep out of the dev team, and nobody bats an eyelid. The last update here was in late November... that's barely a few months old, and there's been very active participation in the forums by the dev team saying how they've fixed certain thing and it'll be in the next release. Doesn't sound particularly like doom and gloom to me. FWIW, no complaints about that here at all. If anything, I think updates are overrated (especially the paid ones ?), unless there is something blatantly missing, or broken with the software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 T-R-O-L-L 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 On 2/8/2023 at 2:26 AM, Lord Tim said: Is this where I trot out the "I hope it's the Cakewalk Hovercraft" gag again? ? I've been lobbying for the return of the Talent plugin. April's coming. 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoisp Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 12 hours ago, bitflipper said: I've been lobbying for the return of the Talent plugin. April's coming. Is this Talent Plugin the one Milli Vanilli used for his Grammy Award for Best New Artist that didn't sing or play a instrument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 13 hours ago, bitflipper said: I've been lobbying for the return of the Talent plugin. April's coming. I would not want to be on the Beta team for this one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 38 minutes ago, whoisp said: Is this Talent Plugin the one Milli Vanilli used for his Grammy Award for Best New Artist that didn't sing or play a instrument Are you suggesting that music may not always be a reflection of life? I listened to "Set Your Troubles Free", and it would appear that Talent is already in your toolkit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoisp Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 hours ago, bitflipper said: Are you suggesting that music may not always be a reflection of life? I listened to "Set Your Troubles Free", and it would appear that Talent is already in your toolkit. I will take the compliment, i do sit down sometimes and try to right a proper song but im normally trying to create hooks, beats and samples to get a better understanding of Cakewalk production etc so thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 88 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 On 2/7/2023 at 2:43 PM, bitflipper said: There have been three beta releases this year. Combined, they include about 30 bug fixes and some nice enhancements. I can't talk about them per my NDA, but they're going to be very welcome additions. Some old favorites from SONAR days will be coming back, so everybody who came onboard after SONAR's demise are going to get some new goodies. But even you old SONAR guys will smile when you see the new version. Ok if Bitflipper says it going to be good I'm intrigued. I just spent the last three months staring at the "piano roll" working on a pretty large project. I have not done that in years so it was fun getting my cakewalk chops back. As is always the case, at the end I had everything figured out and I was very happy with the workflow. I'm pretty convinced I'm going to be working in cake till the day I die. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 19 hours ago, Jimbo 88 said: Ok if Bitflipper says it going to be good I'm intrigued. In agreement too For some strange reason I didn't think CbB was still doing beta channel. Nice to know someone with Bitflipper's knowledge is on the Beta-Team. Can't wait to see what the Baker's have for this next update. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Richards Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I’ve been with Cakewalk since the early 1990s, the floppy disk years and hope I can stay with Cakewalk. I am very tempted to try my hand at scoring music for videos. I just can’t do it with Cakewalk. Not being able to move the video clip where I want it to go is a non-starter for me. It also feels sluggish. Also, I wish there were more flexibility with the staff view. I’ve spent the last year working with piano roll, but it still isn’t a staff. If I write a complex chord sequence and work on fine tuning a melody or harmony I cannot look at a piano roll while it is moving and know what the heck it is going on. I use about 6 Spitfire libraries and when I see their tutorials or other YouTube musicians using them they seem to have it easier accessing the multiple aspects of the libraries. Lastly, my Korg nanokontrol is just a hunk of plastic. It works and then doesn’t work. People who use other daws don’t seem to have this issue. All of these issues might just be me, but I don’t think so. I can’t seem to find any Cakewalk videos for advanced users. I feel a bit left out. This forum seems to be the only place for me to find answers. Seems like many pros use Cubase. Am I wrong? I appreciate the fact that Cakewalk is free and that there have been many updates, yet I don’t feel like Meng is aiming this product at pros, but is shooting for young users who are lured at the price of entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Please start your own thread instead of hijacking this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Richards Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 The topic is the future of Cakewalk, so my concerns are considered hijacking to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 No. The topic is the timeline for upcoming releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I own Cubase and I got a huge kick out of the Pre Christmas discount deal offer to UPDATE for only $399. I think this is normal for all other DAW's too. The full price of comparable DAW's seems to be over $500. If we had remained under Gibson's roof and the ownership system they were using by now we would have forked over ??? $$ for updates to Splat. ( Sonar Platinum for you newcomers) or you would be using the old one that was so full of bugs you had to save your work every 5 minutes to keep from loosing it. And who knows if Noel and the gang would have been allowed to focus on those bugs like they have been doing since then. Too me that's the only update that has mattered, stability. And we are still not 100% there as you can make Cakewalk crash still if you try and use the wrong plug in ( Like TTS_1) but these are things you learn with any software. I love this free ride I've been on for more than 5 years which also includes a lot of the great plug ins I've found. I'll spend that money on Hardware or upgrades to plug ins I really like. If Bandlab ever asks me for money, which it seems unlikely, no problem I'll gladly pay. It's good software. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Richards Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Byron Dickens said: No. The topic is the timeline for upcoming releases. Okay, you can be right. Does it make you feel better? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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