Brian Walton Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 More or less a change in branding from the last 50% off sale that was running but gives us another 14 days of 50% off. https://www.meldaproduction.com/ My referral code for any new users to get 20% off on top of the 50% off: MELDA31209027 (and sign up for the newsletter to get an instant extra $10 off) My newest discovery with Melda has been how invaluable the MConvolutionMB has become to me as an IR loader. The ease of switching through IRs to demo them is great and for whatever reason it seems like the output gives me a more robust signal with the same IRs as some other loaders/programs. I find many times I'll even bypass a built in IR loader (such as what comes with TONEX) and run MCMB instead. Then I can even run another instace of it for totally seperate Reverb controls (as the reverb is also great). Of course they have lots of useful plugins but this is one that I use way more than I expected to. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettelus Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 It is worth noting that MConvolutionEZ (part of the MFreeFXBundle) is also a (free) IR loader. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted January 1, 2023 Author Share Posted January 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, mettelus said: It is worth noting that MConvolutionEZ (part of the MFreeFXBundle) is also a (free) IR loader. Using that for a couple weeks is what tipped me into getting the MB version. A little bit of "why" EZ is limited to a single IR and limited controls. Not to mention it is only resizable with a paid upgrade to unlock it (and the rather pedestrian interface) MB Version Below: Blending IRs Advanced EQ of IRs/the signal Additional Controls: Better interface and Controls for the Reverbs as well. Edited January 1, 2023 by Brian Walton 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 I’ve gone completely off Melda, was getting loads of weird artefacts and unusual artificial noises in my mixes which I traced back to using MAutoStereoFix and MAutoAlign. Can’t trust any more of their plugins now 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Wow, yet another extension. I think there was a Black Friday Sale, then the 2022 Fade Out, now this. Great opportunity to get on the Meldaproduction train. I've found their product line to be most addictive. Their products have the best value of pleasure/price ratio because even if you only have one (or the FreeFX bundle, even in its non-upgraded state), you'll never exhaust its capabilities. A couple of nights ago I checked my account to see if I had enough referral credits to do any upgrading before the sale ran out. I discovered that someone apparently bought the MTotalFX bundle using my code. This amazing windfall allowed me to leverage up to the MMasteringFX bundle, so I now have MConvolutionMB. I've never clicked with convolution reverbs, so hadn't tried it yet. I had no idea it could do all this. Especially the guitar cab device, I'll have to try it with MTurboAmp. Maybe it'll get me to give convolution reverbs another shot. If anyone's wondering what to start with, using Brian's code and the newsletter credit can bring the price of the 37 piece FreeFX-to-pro upgrade down to around $10. After that, MEssentialFX is the best deal in the bunch, containing most of the MTurbo FX in LE form. MTurboReverble, MTurboDelay (with the bonus MTurboDelayMB), and MAutoDynamicEQ are top-of-the-class powerhouses, MAutoAlign is the way to go for phase alignment of stereo mic'd tracks, and the rest mostly live up to the "essential" tag. MTurboComple and MTurboEQle are collections in themselves. Without the added discounts it's $13 per effect, add the newbie discounts and it comes in at around $95. If you add the FreeFX-to-pro upgrade (as you should), everything clocks in at $118 for a new customer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 I already own 40 Melda Plugins. My Total Bundle prices (69% off) is $707. That's under $12 each for 62 more plugins and it reads that I'll get any and every future plugin created by Melda for free. I'm so tempted..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Bapu said: I already own 40 Melda Plugins. My Total Bundle prices (69% off) is $707. That's under $12 each for 62 more plugins and it reads that I'll get any and every future plugin created by Melda for free. I'm so tempted..... Don’t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yan Filiatrault Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Bapu said: I already own 40 Melda Plugins. My Total Bundle prices (69% off) is $707. That's under $12 each for 62 more plugins and it reads that I'll get any and every future plugin created by Melda for free. I'm so tempted..... What do you think they will bring you that you don’t already have? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Yan Filiatrault said: What do you think they will bring you that you don’t already have? Earlier this year I thought I remember a video where Vojtech was being interviewed by Plugin Boutique and they aluded to one of the biggest revolutions is yet to come.....literally called the mixing revolution Start watching somewhere around the 2:10:00 mark or so where they talk about the pipe line of stuff to come. (2:14 or so they talk about that one specifically) Edited January 2, 2023 by Brian Walton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 13 hours ago, Starship Krupa said: .....so I now have MConvolutionMB. I've never clicked with convolution reverbs, so hadn't tried it yet. I had no idea it could do all this. Especially the guitar cab device, I'll have to try it with MTurboAmp. Maybe it'll get me to give convolution reverbs another shot. It helps to have a collection of Guitar Cab IRs to go along with it that are of high quality, but you can open one of the guitar presets like I've shown above, then load your own IR(s) and save it as a new preset so you get to keep that UI but using your own collection. (ML Sound Pre-Rolla 30s via the MARS PR Cab Pack - also available individually - are my go to) Melda's Convolution plugin is a bit unique in the low latency / low consumption department and tends to make it a bit more usable than some for reverb as well. If you have some good IRs it can sound quite realistic in ways that algo verbs don't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 14 hours ago, tom said: I’ve gone completely off Melda, was getting loads of weird artefacts and unusual artificial noises in my mixes which I traced back to using MAutoStereoFix and MAutoAlign. Can’t trust any more of their plugins now Did you run this by the developer and perhpas share such a project file with them? I haven't used MAudioStereoFix but have used a bit of MAutoAlign. Any Problem I personally had were with the sources (resonances, poor room reverb, etc). I'm sure they would be curious to investigate any issues. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/1/2023 at 3:48 PM, tom said: I’ve gone completely off Melda, was getting loads of weird artefacts and unusual artificial noises in my mixes which I traced back to using MAutoStereoFix and MAutoAlign. Can’t trust any more of their plugins now As Brian said, getting in touch with Meldaproduction seems to be in order. If they sold you products that aren't working, why not give them a chance to make good on the deal? If you have MAutoAlign and MAutoStereoFix, that suggests that you have a bundle or two. Swearing off the entire line, which includes many more straightforward plug-ins that don't include the same analysis and processing because you got poor results from those two of them seems like throwing a lot of babies out with the bathwater. You're not getting acceptable results from their phase alignment tools. What does that have to do with the same company's compressors, EQ's, reverbs, delays and filters? Due to bundle purchases, I have 90 or so of their FX, but I only use a fraction of them because either I've found no use for what the other ones do or have similar FX from other manufacturers that I prefer. Both of those FX do advanced, unusual analysis and processing independent of user control. Meldaproduction's Achilles' heel is sparse documentation, specifically in the area of suggesting appropriate source material and applications. They rely too much on trial and error on the part of the user. I've said it before, even directly in forum conversations with the owner, Meldaproduction's plug-ins have always felt to me like I found an alien artifact with 1000 buttons and knobs, and I've figured out that about 5 of them can do really useful things. The rest of them can probably do other maybe even more amazing things, but I don't have a clue what those might be. There's a lot of confusion around just what kind of source material MAutoAlign is supposed to be used on. It does really well with single instruments that are multiple mic'd, and material that's been mic'd with stereo pairs. For instance, when I mic an acoustic guitar with 2 mics, one pointed near the bridge and the other further up, MAutoAlign works great. I get a huge sound. When I apply it to my drum overheads, which are set up asymmetrically in a modified Recorderman/Glyn Johns configuration, I have to be more careful where I take the analysis from. I tried adding the kick drum and snare mics to the group and things got a lot less usable. I only got MAutoStereoFix a few days ago, but it looks like it uses similar algorithms for analyzing phase. I'll keep an ear open for the kind of artifacts you mention, but if I don't like the results I get with it, I'm not going to bench my remaining 89 Meldaproduction FX. I'm suspicious of FX that run on any kind of autopilot, like iZotope's "assistants." It always feels like I've turned part of the mix over to someone else and therefore have to listen closely to the results to make sure they didn't screw something up. So I use MAutoAlign sparingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/2/2023 at 6:04 AM, Brian Walton said: Melda's Convolution plugin is a bit unique in the low latency / low consumption department and tends to make it a bit more usable than some for reverb as well. If you have some good IRs it can sound quite realistic in ways that algo verbs don't. That's good to know. One of my issues with convolution reverbs has always been my perception of an unfavorable cost:benefit ratio in regard to resource use vs. sonic results. I have Exponential Nimbus and MTurboReverble, which take care of my reverb needs very well. I'll do some comparing. Algo vs. convo. I loaded up a clean electric guitar sound using Strum Session going into MTurboAmp>MConvolutionMB and got some rockin' sounds. MTurboAmp really needs to be paired with a good cab sim. Not including one, and therefore requiring something like MCabinet or MConvolutionMB to complete the sound is a ***** move. Every other amp sim I've seen includes a collection of cab sims and usually some kind of spring reverb emulation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Starship Krupa said: I loaded up a clean electric guitar sound using Strum Session going into MTurboAmp>MConvolutionMB and got some rockin' sounds. MTurboAmp really needs to be paired with a good cab sim. Not including one, and therefore requiring something like MCabinet or MConvolutionMB to complete the sound is a ***** move. Every other amp sim I've seen includes a collection of cab sims and usually some kind of spring reverb emulation. Mguitararchitect will be the all in one, amp, cab, and some effects plugin which is a beta type of installer now. I agree it was an odd move to not have any sort of cab option built in. I wonder what the resource uptick would have been to add a simple convolutionez loader in it. I own turbo amp and mcab so I wonder what the upgrade price will be. Thankfully the turboamp had a pretty reasonable intro price as it felt like it took forever to get out of beta. I didn't test guitararc yet, I hope it has a nicely featured ir loader not just the stock Mcab stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Brian Walton said: Mguitararchitect I think Vojtech is blowing it big time by not naming it "MGuitarchitect." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/1/2023 at 6:19 PM, Fleer said: Don’t I dinnit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 4 hours ago, Brian Walton said: I wonder what the resource uptick would have been to add a simple convolutionez loader in it. You make a good point that Melda also publish a free convo loader (which includes a cabinet impulse), but MTurboAmp's marketing seems to emphasize the need to pair it with MCabinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 8 hours ago, Starship Krupa said: As Brian said, getting in touch with Meldaproduction seems to be in order. If they sold you products that aren't working, why not give them a chance to make good on the deal? If you have MAutoAlign and MAutoStereoFix, that suggests that you have a bundle or two. Swearing off the entire line, which includes many more straightforward plug-ins that don't include the same analysis and processing because you got poor results from those two of them seems like throwing a lot of babies out with the bathwater. You're not getting acceptable results from their phase alignment tools. What does that have to do with the same company's compressors, EQ's, reverbs, delays and filters? Due to bundle purchases, I have 90 or so of their FX, but I only use a fraction of them because either I've found no use for what the other ones do or have similar FX from other manufacturers that I prefer. Both of those FX do advanced, unusual analysis and processing independent of user control. Meldaproduction's Achilles' heel is sparse documentation, specifically in the area of suggesting appropriate source material and applications. They rely too much on trial and error on the part of the user. I've said it before, even directly in forum conversations with the owner, Meldaproduction's plug-ins have always felt to me like I found an alien artifact with 1000 buttons and knobs, and I've figured out that about 5 of them can do really useful things. The rest of them can probably do other maybe even more amazing things, but I don't have a clue what those might be. There's a lot of confusion around just what kind of source material MAutoAlign is supposed to be used on. It does really well with single instruments that are multiple mic'd, and material that's been mic'd with stereo pairs. For instance, when I mic an acoustic guitar with 2 mics, one pointed near the bridge and the other further up, MAutoAlign works great. I get a huge sound. When I apply it to my drum overheads, which are set up asymmetrically in a modified Recorderman/Glyn Johns configuration, I have to be more careful where I take the analysis from. I tried adding the kick drum and snare mics to the group and things got a lot less usable. I only got MAutoStereoFix a few days ago, but it looks like it uses similar algorithms for analyzing phase. I'll keep an ear open for the kind of artifacts you mention, but if I don't like the results I get with it, I'm not going to bench my remaining 89 Meldaproduction FX. I'm suspicious of FX that run on any kind of autopilot, like iZotope's "assistants." It always feels like I've turned part of the mix over to someone else and therefore have to listen closely to the results to make sure they didn't screw something up. So I use MAutoAlign sparingly. I own about 7 of their plugins and still use utility ones. Auto align I had to sell. When you use it, listen carefully to the hats and OHs and you’ll hear the added artifacts, I have a feeling it’s to do with spectral processing Like all of us, I have other plenty other plugins and don’t feel I’m missing out by leaving Melda behind, just wary of devs who try and tackle every known processor out there instead of specialising in a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, tom said: wary of devs who try and tackle every known processor out there instead of specialising in a few That would make you wary of a lot of developers. Who are the ones who specialize in a few FX rather than a full line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Starship Krupa said: That would make you wary of a lot of developers. Who are the ones who specialize in a few FX rather than a full line? You know what I mean, Melda does everything across the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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