Superior Drummer Cymbal Mute Discovered at last!

[Keni]

Whew...

 

This one was just driving me crazy.

I finally learned about it from someone's video where he mentions it getting in his way.

Superior Drummer uses key aftertouch to execute cymbal mutes!

This is gonna be very useful here as I’ve been using volume automation to achieve this...

 

...just thought I’d pass it on for others who might not be aware of this.

 

[reginaldStjohn]

There is also a mute articulation that you can apply that will silence a ringing cymbal and mute it like someone grabbing it.

[Keni]

54 minutes ago, reginaldStjohn said:

There is also a mute articulation that you can apply that will silence a ringing cymbal and mute it like someone grabbing it.

Sounds handy. Will this mute a cymbal who’s note is finished while sustain continues?

The key aftertouch only activates during the note's length requiring drawing some very long notes.

Articulations. So I've finally found one I can use. Do you know where a list if articulations is available?

 I’m facing a bit of a learning curve here for that as I used them sparingly long ago and haven’t approached Cake's articulation mapping yet

 

... edit

 

Hmmm. I see I need to find/create an articulation map for this? I have yet to find any mention of the defaults anywhere. None in the content forum here either. Learning curve is getting bigger. Off for more searching.

 

Edited November 29, 2022 by Keni

[Keni]

OK... I bashed against it long enough.

I have created an articulation map for SD3 that evokes the aftertouch mute for Crash 2&4 as well as Ride.

So far unsuccessful at muting the hat. Any hints would be helpful. Nothing I've tried has succeeded yet. I'm bashing at this as I don't really know what I'm doing, but I have managed to get some the above mentioned working fine.

I will share it as soon as I see how...

 

[reginaldStjohn]

I would have to look at it again, not at my DAW, right now, but they way I do cymbal "chokes" or mutes is to have the cymbal play and then play the cymbal choke or mute articulation anytime during decay of the cymbal. It plays a sample that is the drummer grabbing the cymbal to mute it.

[Keni]

1 hour ago, reginaldStjohn said:

I would have to look at it again, not at my DAW, right now, but they way I do cymbal "chokes" or mutes is to have the cymbal play and then play the cymbal choke or mute articulation anytime during decay of the cymbal. It plays a sample that is the drummer grabbing the cymbal to mute it.

Yup... If working in midi list. The event needs to be either key or channel (some different characteristics fir each) aftertouch to trigger that sound.

In PRV, only channel aftertouch seems available via envelopes, but I’ve now created & posted Cakewalk Articulation Map to make it easy using key aftertouch inserted at each desired location. Much easier now. This has been irking me for quite some time now so I’m relieved to finally have an easy solution.

 

There's a link to the Articulate Map in the Content forum...

 

Edited November 30, 2022 by Keni

[E Dumas Chalifour]

I stumbled upon this thread while trying to solve this exact same issue. Seems like this thread wasn't a success. But I finally solved it, if you're still wondering, here's:

-Select the concerned cymbal by clicking on it

-Above the drum picture, in the right  corner, select the ''tail mute'' articulation  that's under ''Not-MIDI mapped''. Now we need to MIDI-map it

-In the edit column that's further on the right, double click on the ''MIDI mapping'' tab. You should see the ''tail mute'' entry

-Click on the 3 horizontal line logo next to the ''tail mute'' entry

-Select either ''learn'' or ''map'' according to your preference

Now you can play or map the mute as a note. 

There you go! Let me know if that helped

[Keni]

6 minutes ago, E Dumas Chalifour said:

I stumbled upon this thread while trying to solve this exact same issue. Seems like this thread wasn't a success. But I finally solved it, if you're still wondering, here's:

-Select the concerned cymbal by clicking on it

-Above the drum picture, in the right  corner, select the ''tail mute'' articulation  that's under ''Not-MIDI mapped''. Now we need to MIDI-map it

-In the edit column that's further on the right, double click on the ''MIDI mapping'' tab. You should see the ''tail mute'' entry

-Click on the 3 horizontal line logo next to the ''tail mute'' entry

-Select either ''learn'' or ''map'' according to your preference

Now you can play or map the mute as a note. 

There you go! Let me know if that helped

Thanks. I guess I forgot to mark it solved. I was so used to having it as an immediate part of the sample set offered that it took me a bit to reralize to access it as an articulation here which I did manage to do...eventually. 😉

 

But thanks for giving your time and thoughts here. I should have posted my results but I guess I forgot.... Oh, I posted my articulation maps in the appropriate thread here I believe...

[sjoens]

Seems like a lot of hoops just for a hat mute.

[Keni]

22 minutes ago, sjoens said:

Seems like a lot of hoops just for a hat mute.

Yeah, I felt that too, but that's the SD3 sample set. The chokes are all listed as articulations as they already have so many samples mapped to the primary map.

Once realized though, and created (articulation maps for cymbals) it's relatively simple to deal with...