whoisp Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 51 minutes ago, Zargg said: I'd choose Console 1's Empirical Labs Trak Pak if I only had to choose one (not including stock plugins). All the best. Softtube do some cracking gear, but expensive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywtelejazz Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) I think it may be time to ask a multiple choice question ! A . How many plugins does Bapu ! really have ? B. How many foot ball fields full of people standing shoulder to shoulder would it take to visually represent and add up to the number of plugins Bapu ! has while everyone standing there only has one plugin ? C. If all the people standing shoulder to shoulder out on the fields with only one plugin decided to light a lighter at the same time and wave their arms , do you think they would generate enough light to be seen from the International Space Station in space ? D. Since I heard there is no such thing as a Coffee House musician or member with only one plugin . Is any of this even possible ? Kenny Edited November 10, 2022 by kennywtelejazz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoisp Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, kennywtelejazz said: I think it may be time to ask a multiple choice question ! A . How many plugins does Bapu ! really have ? B. How many foot ball fields full of people standing shoulder to shoulder would it take to visually represent and add up to the number of plugins Bapu ! has while everyone standing there only has one plugin ? C. If all the people standing shoulder to shoulder out on the fields with only one plugin decided to light a lighter at the same time and wave their arms , do you think they would generate enough light to be seen from the International Space Station in space ? D. Since I heard there is no such thing as a Coffee House musician or member with only one plugin . Is any of this even possible ? Kenny If you could only have "ONE PLUGIN" which one? a extra plugin given cakewalk stock you already have. However i would be interested in a football stadium (Old Trafford) full of manu fans all farting at the same time and someone light a lighter to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Bapu is a compulsive collector. Like that weird person you know that collects clowns, salt shakers or dream catchers. Ask him how many he actually uses. Or has ever used. I've heard enough of Bapu's mixes to know he's good at it. I doubt he's scrolling through a hundred compressors trying to decide which one to use. I admit to being a reformed collector myself, although I'm down to 339 at last count. I could easily reduce that to a couple dozen. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoisp Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 42 minutes ago, bitflipper said: Bapu is a compulsive collector. Like that weird person you know that collects clowns, salt shakers or dream catchers. Ask him how many he actually uses. Or has ever used. I've heard enough of Bapu's mixes to know he's good at it. I doubt he's scrolling through a hundred compressors trying to decide which one to use. I admit to being a reformed collector myself, although I'm down to 339 at last count. I could easily reduce that to a couple dozen. Probably don't need more than 10 and cakewalk stock is pretty good but i think they should update the stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywtelejazz Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, whoisp said: If you could only have "ONE PLUGIN" which one? a extra plugin given cakewalk stock you already have. Non Cakewalk plugins ? for years it was probably The MPL -1 Pro or The Camel Crusher ... Then I learned " One plugin can be too many and a thousand plugins are never enough " When I want to improve my sound and tone I practice my Guitar a few hours more daily and I learn how to transcribe and play better music ? Kenny 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoisp Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, kennywtelejazz said: Non Cakewalk plugins ? for years it was probably The MPL -1 Pro or The Camel Crusher ... Then I learned " One plugin can be too many and a thousand plugins are never enough " When I want to improve my sound and tone I practice my Guitar a few hours more daily and I learn how to transcribe and play better music ? Kenny There's no substitute for good playing and recording, especially a good hook 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 The only 3rd party plug-ins that I consider absolutely indispensable, which is to say that I wouldn't want to release a track without being able to use them, are my reverbs. My ears seem to be very sensitive to reverb. When I'm listening especially critically, like testing equipment or CODEC's, it's the transients and reverb tails that reveal the differences. Exponential Nimbus or Meldaproduction MTurboReverb. Flip a coin. Probably go with MTurboReverb because of the licensing and continued support by the developer, although I have few worries that the Exponential 'verbs are going to break any time soon. Could do it without 'em, I suppose, but I'd be gritting my teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywtelejazz Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, whoisp said: There's no substitute for good playing and recording, especially a good hook There's no substitute for a good song recorded well featuring good playing . When you add a hook and a Chorus featuring a deep pocket , you have a song that triggers people to react on a deep emotional level . Kenny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, kennywtelejazz said: When I want to improve my sound and tone I practice my Guitar a few hours more daily and I learn how to transcribe and play better music ? 2 hours ago, whoisp said: There's no substitute for good playing and recording, especially a good hook 1 hour ago, kennywtelejazz said: There's no substitute for a good song recorded well featuring good playing . When you add a hook and a Chorus featuring a deep pocket , you have a song that triggers people to react on a deep emotional level . Well said! Too much attention gets placed on searching for magic plugins and too little on improving one's craft and skill. Edited November 10, 2022 by Byron Dickens 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 If it was truly only one plugin, it would be Waves Shepps Omni Channel. Eq, comp, de-esser, saturation, and a gate, everything you would need (and doing it very well) except reverb. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoisp Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, Grem said: If it was truly only one plugin, it would be Waves Shepps Omni Channel. Eq, comp, de-esser, saturation, and a gate, everything you would need (and doing it very well) except reverb. Absolute steal on black friday $29 from 150 https://www.waves.com/plugins/scheps-omni-channel#presenting-scheps-omni-channel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Starship Krupa said: Exponential Nimbus or Meldaproduction MTurboReverb. Flip a coin. I once counted up all the reverbs I have. Sheesh. Way too many. Some of them are unique, e.g. D16's bizarre Toraverb, Valhalla Shimmer or tritik's otherworldly irid. Some are especially adept at disappearing into the mix if that's what you want, e.g. FabFilter's infinitely tweakable Pro-R. I suppose MTurboReverb falls into that category too. Very versatile. But despite all those options, 95% of the time it ends up being Valhalla Plate. (No Nimbus for me, though; I have a Pace-free system and aim to keep it that way.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, bitflipper said: I have a Pace-free system and aim to keep it that way Yep. Me too. And I have lots of reverb too. I was favoring Waves Abbey Road Plates and PSP 2425 for a long time. But recently started reaching more for IK Sunset rooms and both UAD Lexicon reverbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I only get one plug-in? How about one that can sample and loop Kenny? ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywtelejazz Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, craigb said: I only get one plug-in? How about one that can sample and loop Kenny? ? ? That's gonna be a tough sell brother . Even if the introduction price is only $ 29 Kenny Edited November 11, 2022 by kennywtelejazz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, kennywtelejazz said: ? That's gonna be a tough sell brother . Even if the introduction price is only $ 29 Kenny $29 entry price followed by a $329/month subscription to get the loop to stop? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragi Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Grem said: If it was truly only one plugin, it would be Waves Shepps Omni Channel. Eq, comp, de-esser, saturation, and a gate, everything you would need (and doing it very well) except reverb. The good old Waves SSL 4000 for me. Edited November 11, 2022 by Pragi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywtelejazz Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, craigb said: $29 entry price followed by a $329/month subscription to get the loop to stop? ? $29 entry price followed by the non monthly subscription plan. $29 entry price followed by a $329/month subscription plan . ^ ^ The Loop Stops Here ! Oh Yeah I'm sold ! That sounds like a good deal too me , Kenny Edited November 11, 2022 by kennywtelejazz 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 That horse stopping from a wide open gallop.... that's a winner there!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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