Lummy Keen Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Dear All good day, I am aware that there are no black notes in C major key, however i found that there are some songs in C major key that use black note, for example the "not a pop song - by little mix", 1. why isn't there any dissonance since it plays notes outside of the C major key? 2. Is this known as the "Accidentals"? 3. Under what circumstances can i use notes outside of a key? Thanks all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutrageProductions Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Accidental notes outside of a scale are used all the time in composition in passing to create tension, but generally not as a resolving part of a chord structure. IE; glissando, or grace notes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Rules are meant to be broken ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 They do on this keyboard! ? 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, craigb said: They do on this keyboard! ? NICE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Accidentals, passing tones, lots of names. But just take a common chord in the key of C, the C7. It's C - E - G - Bb. I guess if I were reading this in sheet music, I would consider it an accidental, but it's a very common one, and doesn't necessarily take you out of the key of C. BTW, the interval between the E and the Bb is called a Tritone, and it's comprised of 3 whole steps. If E were the root the Bb would be the diminished 5th or augmented 4th. I've read that in the early days of standardized Western music, the tritone was considered "The Devil's interval" and was forbidden by the Catholic Church. I've also read that's an exaggeration. Devil's interval or not, I like it. Notes ♫ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wibbles Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 I Am confused? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoo Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 On 7/7/2022 at 9:02 PM, Lummy Keen said: 1. why isn't there any dissonance since it plays notes outside of the C major key? 2. Is this known as the "Accidentals"? 3. Under what circumstances can i use notes outside of a key? 1 - Luck. 2 - Yes. 3 - Once you've paid the licence fee. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertWS Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Notes_Norton said: BTW, the interval between the E and the Bb is called a Tritone, and it's comprised of 3 whole steps. If E were the root the Bb would be the diminished 5th or augmented 4th. I've read that in the early days of standardized Western music, the tritone was considered "The Devil's interval" and was forbidden by the Catholic Church. I've also read that's an exaggeration. Devil's interval or not, I like it. Notes ♫ Thread Hijack! New Subject: Songs with the Devil's Interval! The Immigrant Song: Led Zeppelin Bali Ha’i: Rodgers and Hammerstein from South Pacific. Maria: Leonard Bernstein from West Side Story. Edited July 9, 2022 by RobertWS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Row Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz Hupfer Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) HI:) This upper Song is in G Major! So you have: G Am Bm C D/D7 Em and F#m5- In addition you can use the Dominant Sevenths of the "normal Chords" D7 E7 F#7 G7 A7 B7 and C#7 In the Song is used G B7 C Cm So, clear is G and C as Tonic and Subdominant and B7 as Dominant of the E minor. Unclear is Cm, but often used as a way to lead back to the Tonic G. But it sounds strange in this song... Hope this helps;) Bassman. Edited July 9, 2022 by Heinz Hupfer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Quote Can a song in C major key uses black note? Not if you're playing a guitar, saxophone or timpani. The closest they can get is the occasional brown or blue note. But they have no black notes. Come to think of it, neither do pianos. They have black keys, but the notes are rainbow-colored. F#, for example, is navy blue in my synaesthesiac brain. E is yellow, A is red, and only G makes sense, being green. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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