Tay Zonday Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Hey, are 32 bit VST instruments still supported through an automatic wrapper? I am on Windows 10 64 bit, but I want to open an old project that uses Native Instruments Battery 3. I actually found the original install files for Battery 3 and installed it. The VST DLL is in Cakewalk's 32 bit VST folder . . . AND the folder is being searched by my plugin manager . . . but I just can't get Battery 3 to load as an instrument in the current version of Cakewalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willard cottrell Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) Does your instrument (Battery 3) appear in the synth list (Alt F9)? Willard Edited January 3, 2019 by willard cottrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tay Zonday Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, willard cottrell said: Does your instrument (Battery 3) appear in the synth list (Alt F9)? Willard No, I can't get it to show up in the instruments list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willard cottrell Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 This is what prompted me to ask a similar question last week. I tried to restore my computer b/c it appeared that both the CbB update and Win 10 update occurred around the same time. My computer crashed and it's at the computer Dr as we write. I mention that in case that's a way you might try to solve the problem. As always, your mileage may vary. Hopefully, it'll be better than mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tay Zonday Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 hours ago, pwalpwal said: there's a 64 bit version of battery 3, get that You can add Battery 3 as a Kontakt instrument and use the 64-bit Kontakt VST (I have most Native Instruments products). You can also add its libraries to Battery 4. Unfortunately, this is not the same VST as the 32-bit standalone Battery 3 VST . . . and so an old project that used that plugin won't automatically load the same sounds. I'd have to manually guess what Battery 3 library I was using, which would not be an issue if I could just use the original 32-bit VST plugin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 CbB includes BitBridge. The same BitBridge that was bundled with SONAR for years. That said, if a manufacturer supplies a 64bit version of the plug-in, more often than not the 64bit version is a better solution that loading Bitbridge. As a rule, 64bit VST plug-ins are drop in replacements for 32bit VST plug-ins of the same release. It appears the latest update to Battery 3 has a 64bit VST (see https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/does-battery-3-work-on-windows-10-64-bit.269915/) IIRC, Battery 3 also shipped in DX format. No 32bit DX plug-in will be recognized in a 64bit host. When a plug-in does not show up in the plug-in list, here are a few things to do: See if the plug-in is in the exclude list in the Plug-in Manager. If so, try a manual scan with "Re-scan Failed Plug-ins" enabled (make sure to disable the rescan options after the manual scan) Run a scan log - the option is on the same preference screen as the re-scan options Run a VST reset - same preference screen. This will clear the VST Inventory in the registry and rescan the plug-ins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdiemer Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Is the Vst activated? Does it have a stand-alone version? That should tell you if it's activated or not. I have a similar issue with NI Banstand. It won't activate anymore. NI has abandoned it. I had it running in demo mode for awhile, but that is useless of course, except to tell you it works, but is not activated. I ended up uninstalling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tay Zonday Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, pwalpwal said: here's the installers for x64 battery3 https://support.native-instruments.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000549845 Thanks everybody for their efforts on this. I currently have Battery version 3.2.3 -- which is linked above -- which has placed a 64 bit VST in the proper folder in Cakewalk. I still only see Battery 4 and not Battery 3 in my instruments. I have no indication that the 64 bit Battery 3 VST is loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Does the plug-in show up in the Plug-in Manager? If so, which plug-in layout are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tay Zonday Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 OK, this FINALLY RESOLVED! Apparently, the VST Scanner application runs separately from Cakewalk. Every time I re-launched Cakewalk, the VST scanner was in a "stuck" state where it wasn't closing alongside Cakewalk or re-opening. Once I re-booted, the VST scanner began working again and discovered Battery 3 correctly. So the Instrument is now loading. Thank you everybody for your help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleStudios Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Are you the Tay Zonday who created the song "Chocolate Rain"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 On 1/4/2019 at 4:44 PM, LittleStudios said: Are you the Tay Zonday who created the song "Chocolate Rain"? I think it's likely. IIRC he posted a few times at the old CW forums as a Sonar user... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleStudios Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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