jackson white Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, scook said: Style Dials are customized FX Chains. assume that means they are dependent on core CW FX then right? if so, are these dependencies documented anywhere? IIRC, some of the extras developed by Craig Anderton hit a few speedbumps when FX (TH3?) were upgraded, but would not be a problem for a 3rd party dev, which might be a plus for PC versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 minute ago, jackson white said: assume that means they are dependent on core CW FX then right? They are dependent on Cakewalk developed plug-ins 1 minute ago, jackson white said: if so, are these dependencies documented anywhere? Not in user documentation 3 minutes ago, jackson white said: IIRC, some of the extras developed by Craig Anderton hit a few speedbumps when FX (TH3?) Some FX Chains bundled with CbB used plug-ins that were not bundled with the DAW. AFAIK, this issue was addressed in 2020.08. I don't believe TH3 was involved. That plug-in is bundled with CbB. Any FX Chains made with it should still work. I know there were some using Channel Tools. This plug-in was not in the original distribution but was added later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Smith Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I like the PC because it tells you a lot more than a simple effects stack like we see in PT or Cubase among others. You can access effects chains right inside of it. I keep forgetting I have Breverb with hundreds of settings in the PC and often reach for something else. This was a cutting edge novel idea. The ability to see a bunch of things happening in the PC using less steps than many other DAWs. Having said that, as a commercial venture I think most if not many plug in makers would prefer to write something that can go into any DAW. It would be great to see development of plugins for the PC. I realize the implications of allowing something like an open source code to develop plugins for the PC. There would need to be some sort of a vetting process to make sure everything works ok. Maybe pass it through the brass for a check out first....or a willing and knowledgeable Cakewalk tester with that authority. Judging from all of the skins people made for Cakewalk, the PC would be similar if tinkerers were allowed in the door. That's the only way I see this taking off unless there are more changes to Cakewalk. People who downloaded for free only because the software is free aren't as likely to pay for plugins. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackson white Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 22 hours ago, Tim Smith said: People who downloaded for free only because the software is free aren't as likely to pay for plugins. most likely true, but I find a lot of my peeps buying apps/fx to make their iPhone vids more interesting... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubdisciple Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 This topic went in a very similar manner 4 years ago on the old forum. I suppose anything is possible. Just not gonna hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) And since it has been almost 4 years without BandLab re-releasing ANY of the old premium Cakewalk developed plugins, I sense that they really are not all that interested in pursuing further plugin development and support. They would most likely have pushed something out by this point if they were... Edited January 19, 2022 by abacab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubdisciple Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 35 minutes ago, abacab said: And since it has been almost 4 years without BandLab re-releasing ANY of the old premium Cakewalk developed plugins, I sense that they really are not all that interested in pursuing further plugin development and support. They would most likely have pushed something out by this point if they were... They did finally release la2a lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubdisciple Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I suspect style dials are almost all sonitus under the hood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Variorum Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Style Dials run on top of Cakewalk VST's. Sonitus plugins are DirectX based. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubdisciple Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Variorum said: Style Dials run on top of Cakewalk VST's. Sonitus plugins are DirectX based. Not contradicting this because I have no idea, but how do you know they are strictly based on VSTs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Variorum Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Mike will give you a hint here... These are still present because the Style Dials use them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, dubdisciple said: They did finally release la2a lol An exception that I wasn't aware of. I have the original. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 IIRC, the Style Dials use older versions of the plug-ins. I learned their structure the hard way. When I was volunteered to support MC7, I installed the DAW and it blew up some of the Platinum plug-ins. A few rounds with the devs and the problem was sorted out. They could be DX, VST2 or VST3 because FX Chains supports all formats but, in this case, they are all VST2. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Variorum Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, scook said: A few rounds with the devs and the problem was sorted out. Oh sure... blame the poor devs... ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Variorum said: Oh sure... blame the poor devs... ? I used to be one myself. Then I was promoted to whipping boy and department sin eater. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, scook said: I used to be one myself. Then I was promoted to whipping boy and department sin eater. Be careful, sin is not a low calorie food ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.r Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) On 1/19/2022 at 1:58 AM, abacab said: An exception that I wasn't aware of. I have the original. I too have the original CA2A and the new one, PC2A doesn't have sidechain input but I'm not sure that was stated in cakewalk's release notes. Edited January 20, 2022 by chris.r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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