john r payne Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Longtime BIAB user but first time setting it up as a plugin. Working with latest 2022 BIAB and Cakewalk. Followed the instruction video but don't see the plugin in CW. I've verified that the BIAB plugin file (Band-in-a-Box DAW VST3 vst.plugin dated 11/30/2021) is in C:\Programs\Common Files\VST3 and I've verified that CW's scan path is C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3, and I even deleted that scan path and recreated and rescanned. Still doesn't show up in CW. John Payne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Have you tried a RESET then rescan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 34 minutes ago, Promidi said: Have you tried a RESET then rescan? There is no need to perform a rescan after a VST reset. A scan is performed as part of the reset. Like all manual scanning operations, a VST reset should be performed from preferences and it is a good idea to enable "Generate Scan Log" so if the reset does not fix the problem, there is a log which may help find a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, scook said: A scan is performed as part of the reset. I could not find where, in the CbB manual, that it says a scan is automatically performed as part of the reset. If this was the case, I would expect it to be here: http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=0x22B07 Yet the word “RESET” only occurs once on that page. Scrolling down, I see the following statement: “Reset. Click this button to remove all scanning records and settings from all your VST plug-ins. Use this button if you want to completely start over” It does not say that a scan is performed with the reset. Maybe I am not looking in the right place..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 A VST reset clears the VST inventory in the registry then performs a scan. Step 1 is the only difference between a VST reset and a manual scan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, scook said: A VST reset clears the VST inventory in the registry then performs a scan. Step 1 is the only difference between a VST reset and a manual scan. Is that in the CbB manual (if so, link?) or is that one of those things you either know or you don’t? Further more, when you do click the RESET button, the dialogue that appears clearly states: “This will reset the configuration settings for all your VST plug-ins to defaults.VST plug-ins will be unavailable until a VST scan is performed” So, in light of what is in the CbB user guide, and the textual contents of this dialogue box, I will continue to recommend a VST Scan after the VST reset. Edited January 8, 2022 by Promidi Additional information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Promidi said: Is that in the CbB manual (if so, link?) or is that one of those things you either know or you don’t? I have not looked this up. I know it to be true. You can prove it for yourself by running a VST reset without an additional scan. All plug-ins will be there. If you want documentation, make sure to generate a scan log with the reset, Then run a scan and generate a scan log. All the plug-ins should already be scanned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john r payne Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 I did VST reset, still no BAIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Review the scan log. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john r payne Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 BIAB forum suggested I reload BIAB and include VST2. Did than, still doesn't show up in CW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Where did you install the VST2 dll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, scook said: I have not looked this up. I know it to be true. You can prove it for yourself by running a VST reset without an additional scan. All plug-ins will be there. If you want documentation, make sure to generate a scan log with the reset, Then run a scan and generate a scan log. All the plug-ins should already be scanned. Well, regardless, when I performed a reset without the subsequent scan (on a non production PC) , it cleared the VST plugin inventory in the registry and in Cakewalk (This manifest on a Cakewalk exit and restart) So, in my mind, the user guide and the reset dialogue box prevails. I am going to continue to mention the scan with the reset. We are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john r payne Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 Scook, the VST2 dll is in C:\Programs\Common Files\VST2. The BIAB installer inserts those VST files. When I look at properties of the BIAB VST dll's just after scanned by CW I see that the were just accessed. So it appears CW looks at the files and for some reason rejects them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, john r payne said: So it appears CW looks at the files and for some reason rejects them? Is that what the scan log says? I assume 18 minutes ago, john r payne said: C:\Programs\Common Files\VST2 is actually "C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST2" and this is in the scan path in preferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsinger Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) Have you looked under instruments? Depending on your layout, on the far right select the Plugins tab and below the Plugins tab select Instruments and mine is under Uncategorized. I don't use Biab as a plugin, but thought I'd check it out... Edited January 9, 2022 by rsinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 In CW here, the BIAB VST3 plugin is listed under the manufacturer's name: PG Music Inc. in the Instruments category. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Yep. Its an instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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